when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in EU is very costly. The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas as well as keep overhead down.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: > > Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered. > > One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has > been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we > do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only > Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came. > So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct > me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by > CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a > sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production > overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.) > > > 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <[email protected] <javascript:>>: > >> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in >> Europe. >> >> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was >> not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this. >> As such it was easier to go to a european conference. I also feel that >> yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass >> and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is >> to travel 9 hours around the globe. Do you have stats of where people came >> from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area? >> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins >> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference. >> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the >> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame. >> >> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or >> that it will be filled by next year - certainly there is nothing in the UK >> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north >> west as well as somewhere around London. >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: >>> >>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed >>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new >>> model. >>> >>> >>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016 >>> >>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to >>> get discussions going well before that. >>> >>> -- >>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/0a84666c-6a00-4489-8350-51c5e0cebaf8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
