(replies inline) On Thu, 01 Sep 2016, Gus Reiber wrote:
> Tyler, I am confused by your post. > 256 is A LOT less than 50k. A LOT, A LOT less. 20x less. > 10K is a lot less than 50k, so if anything, Open-Stack Cloud's 256 installs > is being exaggerated. It is being graded on an easier scale than Structs, > which is also being graded on an easier scale than Mailer, which has over > 100k installs and is graded on a 200k scale. > > To someone wondering if a plugin is worth installing, moving from 20 > installs to 40 installs is 2x, but mostly meaningless. Moving from 1 > install to 10 is totally meaningless despite being 10x. Whereas, moving > from 75k to 125k over the same time would be a big deal. > > Using your own examples, the Structs jump really is remarkable. The > Open-stack jump, isn't particularly, unless you are that plugin's developer. > There are a number of niche plugins which will *never* see tens of thousands installations. Regardless of how the overall installation number is viewed, a relatively scaled Y-axis, like that on the current plugin page (https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Openstack+Cloud+Plugin), conveys useful information (IMHO) about how that specific plugin is trending/growing. Said differently, I think the minimum Y-axis at 10,000 makes that graph only useful for plugins in a larger install-range (5000+), which is only the top 115 (ish) of 1200 plugins available in the update center. For the long-tail it doesn't strike me as useful. > For the recently installed.... > > As Daniel described, the point of the recently installed is to give newer > plugins a way to shine. > If a plugin has been around for a long time, it has had more time to > accumulate installations. This levels that playing field, tried-and-true > vs. new-and-exciting. Aside from "Browse Categories" which doesn't make sense to me on the same level with three lists of plugins, I think the "Recently Installed" list is much less problematic if it's simply titled "Trending", then we can hand-wave all the behind-the-scenes math just like Twitter and Facebook do :) - R. Tyler Croy ------------------------------------------------------ Code: <https://github.com/rtyler> Chatter: <https://twitter.com/agentdero> % gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 1426C7DC3F51E16F ------------------------------------------------------ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/20160901193737.GG15612%40blackberry.coupleofllamas.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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