Any chance of getting a the manage nodes screen changed to include the java version for that agent, in advance of forcing Java 8 in the weekly builds?
That would at least make it simpler for folks like myself to know the scale of the upcoming impact. Thanks, Kelly Hickel From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Connolly Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Time for Jenkins to require Java 8 to run I think we should say "the first LTS of 2017 will require Java 8. End of conversation" That will mean that weekly releases should switch to Java 8 by mid-end November. 2017 it's a new year, it's a new Java version. We could look to solve some of the evil job type issues by *forking* remoting into the evil plugin and using animal-sniffer to keep plugins "pure" On Saturday 29 October 2016, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 2016-10-29 14:52 GMT+02:00 Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: >From my POV the problem is that we don't know if we are talking about 5% or >50% :( Well, since yesterday, we do know some things<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1-5FgsorbySktXNjMywDFZE0-5FeTm-5Fr2zfPKdmq7AqWO2uQ_edit-23gid-3D1770972416&d=CwMFaQ&c=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E&r=q0qg2fxg744VhUMF4dROjIQOSbbOR7VYtDObJu4sCp4&m=0qiZX9e-5kHKgYJEFZ5rf6fvPU52wKPI4GGbSa-3jxY&s=W1IZz4vSXptupnNgzpADyRjK6WJRkGbIzo9x70Psw4E&e=>. * Java 8 as runtime represents 52% of the 133505 instances out there (yes, it's ignoring the opted-out ones) * Maven-plugin is installed 118711 times (yes, ignoring on purpose the fact it was auto-installed up to 2.x) * So, at most it's 46% of the users base who might be impacted here, if they were to upgrade in the very short term (that is: while also still using an EoLed JDK7 durably). Now, looking at the trend of the number of installs of that plugin, my guts feeling is that is less than that. And if you add that to the trend of Java 7 JVM users (see link above), then it is most probably going down even quicker. An example I have in mind is my previous company, pretty sure they didn't upgrade to Jenkins 2.x yet, so they still contribute to that stats, but we migrated off that plugins years ago after so many headaches and hours spent to debug different behaviours between Maven CLI and using it in Jenkins. 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