(replies inline) On Wed, 04 Apr 2018, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
> Hi Baptiste,
>
> Anyone can easily change the logging format in Jenkins by passing custom
> J.U.L properties file.
> So it should not be a problem to change logging format even if you do not
> add a custom logging appender for ELK.
>
> Changing a default logging format may cause regressions in existing
> monitoring systems. I would rather be conservative and keep the default
> logging format in Jenkins unless there is a strong justification to do
> that. New subprojects like Jenkins Essentials and Jenkins X could easily
> change the default format, because they have no compatibility commitment so
> far.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Oleg, it makes me wonder: how could we
quantify the positive/negative impact of this (arguably) "bad default."
I'm reminded of some of the pre-Jenkins 2 discussions about security defaults
for example. I spent some time trying to discover Jenkins-log-parsing projects,
tools, and their communities to which we could reach out. Unfortunately I
wasn't able to find anything big past a couple of blog posts :-/
>From my personal experience as an Operator, compact and easily parseable
(sed/awk/perl) one-line logs are HUGELY valuable and worth any temporary
heartburn some people may experience with their existing hacks.
Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy
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