I'm +1 to change the format. 2 lines is really annoying

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:24 PM, R. Tyler Croy <ty...@monkeypox.org> wrote:

> (replies inline)
>
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2018, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>
> > Hi Baptiste,
> >
> > Anyone can easily change the logging format in Jenkins by passing custom
> > J.U.L properties file.
> > So it should not be a problem to change logging format even if you do not
> > add a custom logging appender for ELK.
> >
> > Changing a default logging format may cause regressions in existing
> > monitoring systems. I would rather be conservative and keep the default
> > logging format in Jenkins unless there is a strong justification to do
> > that. New subprojects like Jenkins Essentials and Jenkins X could easily
> > change the default format, because they have no compatibility commitment
> so
> > far.
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts Oleg, it makes me wonder: how could we
> quantify the positive/negative impact of this (arguably) "bad default."
>
> I'm reminded of some of the pre-Jenkins 2 discussions about security
> defaults
> for example. I spent some time trying to discover Jenkins-log-parsing
> projects,
> tools, and their communities to which we could reach out. Unfortunately I
> wasn't able to find anything big past a couple of blog posts :-/
>
> From my personal experience as an Operator, compact and easily parseable
> (sed/awk/perl) one-line logs are HUGELY valuable and worth any temporary
> heartburn some people may experience with their existing hacks.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> - R. Tyler Croy
>
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