It would make sense, though I am not sure how another email domain would
make a difference there. Sending emails to Google addresses is not blocked
in China from what I know. CDF might be able to set up an email for us, but
I am not sure about timing. If we want to start the sign-up process on Sep
24 as planned, it would be quite a challenge to get the email in time.

Any thoughts from others?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:12 PM 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers <
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> > jenkins-2020-elections@googlegroup
> > It will definitely help contributors in areas where Google services are
> blocked
>
> Wouldn't it make sense for the fallback email to be something other than
> google then?
>
> cd.foundation is using mailgun (according to MX records), so maybe they
> could setup [email protected] that forwards to
> google/the board, so there's no issues.
>
> Gavin
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:01 AM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> As an additional mitigation, we can also add a "send a sign-up email to
>> jenkins-2020-elections@googlegroups" fallback process to the
>> announcement. It will definitely help contributors in areas where Google
>> services are blocked
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 19:00 Mark Waite <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 4:28 AM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >   it requires users to login to a Google account when using the
>>>> Google Forms mechanism. It does allow us to reduce the possibility of
>>>> duplicate voting.
>>>>
>>>> Apart from duplicate voting, it also prevents from submitting voting
>>>> sign-up forms for other individuals. If we do not use a Google account or
>>>> any other authentication service, anyone will be able to submit a form for
>>>> anyone else, including doing submissions for participants who may not want
>>>> their emails to be stored and who do not want to receive communications
>>>> from the Jenkins project. It increases the risk of abuse for the voting
>>>> sign-up system.
>>>>
>>>> We do not want to rely solely on Jenkins LDAP, but I think we need some
>>>> kind of identity management. Google Auth could bridge the gap, as one of
>>>> the options we can rollout quickly. We de-facto require it for many other
>>>> contribution areas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think we should use Google Auth to bridge the gap as you've suggested.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:15:23 PM UTC+2 Richard Bywater
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally I don't think we should be forcing people to sign up for
>>>>> third-party services just to be able to vote on Jenkins related matters.
>>>>> There may be good reasons that people have for not wanting to create a
>>>>> Google account.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 3:15 AM Slide, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Jenkins Governance Board Elections Committee is currently
>>>>>> implementing the process which has been defined for Governance Board and
>>>>>> Officer Elections. As part of this, we are creating the form that will be
>>>>>> used for signing up to participate in the elections. We need to collect
>>>>>> email addresses as part of the process. We are using a Google Form for 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sign-up and it provides a mechanism to collect email addresses, but it
>>>>>> requires users to login to a Google account when using the Google Forms
>>>>>> mechanism. It does allow us to reduce the possibility of duplicate 
>>>>>> voting.
>>>>>> We will not keep the data after the voting. Another option would be to 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> have a short text input that accepts an email address and we would 
>>>>>> collect
>>>>>> it that way. We would like the opinions of those on this list to 
>>>>>> determine
>>>>>> whether this is acceptable or not. We need the email addresses in order 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> communicate if there are issues in the contribution information as well 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> to add the folks to the Condorcet vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know ASAP your thoughts on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex Earl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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