Ray,
Jetspeed directly uses Velocity and JSP for layout and content 
generation.  Turbine, ECS, Log4J, are also used by Jetspeed.  Currently 
it does NOT use Cocoon!  Their has been interest in a Cocoon portlet for 
a while, but it as not be implemented.  Implementing a Cocoon portlet is 
  on the ToDo list.

 > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity.
Not in Jetspeed!

As to my "poor answer".  I did not have the time to do the research need 
to answer your question, but I knew it had been asked and answered 
before and the answers where in the mailing list.  I view the mailing 
list a valuable resource that should be utilized.

Paul Spencer

Ray Martin wrote:

> that sure is a poor answer.  you can search yur head off in the mailing 
> list and know no more than you did before.
> 
> i believe the answer to the question is very complex and therefore very 
> time consuming to answer - but, no answer is better than "go look in the 
> mailing list"
> 
> You will probably need to spend quite a bit of time studying the various 
> products to understand their uses and relationships.  But, here is a tiny 
> summary from my studies:
> Jetspeed uses Turbine and ECS
> Turbine uses Velocity, therefore, Jetspeed uses Velocity (though JSP is 
> also an option)
> Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity.
> Cocoon is based on Avalon - none of the other products are based on Avalon 
> (this will cause the  products to appear to be diametrically opposed)
> I have not familiarized myself with Struts - can't comment (it appears to 
> be a framework in "competition" with Turbine).
> Don't forget that Turbine uses Torque for database activity.
> 
> each product has their strengths and weaknesses.
> 
> note that Avalon represents the "best of thinking" that i have come across.
> 
> my personal goal for my projects is to use Jetspeed (which includes all the 
> underpinnings) combined with Cocoon for complex presentation events - the 
> Pipeline component of Cocoon. i think i want Cocoon pipelines available in 
> Jetspeed portals - this is where i am designing to - hopefully i don't fall 
> flat on my face...
> 
> Ray
> 
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> Subject:      Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -..
> 
> This question has been asked and answered many times.
> Search the mailing list, http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 
> Paul Spencer
> 
> 
> Patrick Munis wrote:
> 
> 
>>I am new to Jetspeed and most Jakarta software. What's the relationship
>>between JetSpeed - Cocoon -Velocity- Turbine - Struts -ECS. Can they be
>>used together in a project?For example, Can I use cocoon's  xsp in
>>Jetspeed?  Are they competing technologies. I'll appreciate any
>>explanations.
>>
>>thanks
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
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