but there is a cocoon portlet in the jetspeed CVS, but has been a while no one update it.. the version still 1.3a1..
and it is cocoon 1.82, but the cocoon 2, cannot run together... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jetspeed Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: RE: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. > Mr Spencer, > Yes, I understand that Cocoon and Jetspeed are not integrated "straight out > of the box" > > I meant that for right now one chooses to go the Turbine/Velocity path > (with Jetspeed right in there) or chooses the Cocoon path - that is what i > meant by an "alternative". I surely did not wish to insinuate that > Turbine/Velocity or Cocoon could alternatively be used with Jetspeed. > Sorry about the confusion. > > I did not ask the question. Mr Munis asked the question. He asked a > question that plays on everyone's mind when they enter the > jakarta.apache.org site - what is all of this great stuff? how can it best > be put to use? > > No one will ever find the answers to those questions in the mail list in a > single lifetime. The documentation (which the developers AND anyone who > uses the open source products are responsible to create and maintain) is > the source for gaining insight into the products. > > I certainly agree with you that some of us ask such open-ended question > that you would need to waste a great deal of time and energy to answer - > and that is just plain asking TOO much. We need to word our questions > better and look for previously answered questions. > > i am looking forward to the day when i have learned enough that i can > contribute, > Ray > > ---------- > From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: Jetspeed Users List > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:35 PM > To: Jetspeed Users List > Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. > > Ray, > Jetspeed directly uses Velocity and JSP for layout and content > generation. Turbine, ECS, Log4J, are also used by Jetspeed. Currently > it does NOT use Cocoon! Their has been interest in a Cocoon portlet for > a while, but it as not be implemented. Implementing a Cocoon portlet is > on the ToDo list. > > > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. > Not in Jetspeed! > > As to my "poor answer". I did not have the time to do the research need > to answer your question, but I knew it had been asked and answered > before and the answers where in the mailing list. I view the mailing > list a valuable resource that should be utilized. > > Paul Spencer > > Ray Martin wrote: > > > that sure is a poor answer. you can search yur head off in the mailing > > list and know no more than you did before. > > > > i believe the answer to the question is very complex and therefore very > > time consuming to answer - but, no answer is better than "go look in the > > mailing list" > > > > You will probably need to spend quite a bit of time studying the various > > products to understand their uses and relationships. But, here is a tiny > > summary from my studies: > > Jetspeed uses Turbine and ECS > > Turbine uses Velocity, therefore, Jetspeed uses Velocity (though JSP is > > also an option) > > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. > > Cocoon is based on Avalon - none of the other products are based on > Avalon > > (this will cause the products to appear to be diametrically opposed) > > I have not familiarized myself with Struts - can't comment (it appears to > > be a framework in "competition" with Turbine). > > Don't forget that Turbine uses Torque for database activity. > > > > each product has their strengths and weaknesses. > > > > note that Avalon represents the "best of thinking" that i have come > across. > > > > my personal goal for my projects is to use Jetspeed (which includes all > the > > underpinnings) combined with Cocoon for complex presentation events - the > > Pipeline component of Cocoon. i think i want Cocoon pipelines available > in > > Jetspeed portals - this is where i am designing to - hopefully i don't > fall > > flat on my face... > > > > Ray > > > > ---------- > > From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Reply To: Jetspeed Users List > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:55 PM > > To: Jetspeed Users List > > Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. > > > > This question has been asked and answered many times. > > Search the mailing list, http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > Paul Spencer > > > > > > Patrick Munis wrote: > > > > > >>I am new to Jetspeed and most Jakarta software. What's the relationship > >>between JetSpeed - Cocoon -Velocity- Turbine - Struts -ECS. Can they be > >>used together in a project?For example, Can I use cocoon's xsp in > >>Jetspeed? Are they competing technologies. I'll appreciate any > >>explanations. > >> > >>thanks > >>Patrick > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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