Mr. Martin, Sorry of giving you credit for "poor answer". In order to use Cocoon with Jetspeed today, you must use the WebPagePorlet to retrieve the content from Cocoon, via a URL.
> I meant that for right now one chooses to go the Turbine/Velocity path > (with Jetspeed right in there) or chooses the Cocoon path - that is what i > meant by an "alternative". If you are choosing a portal engine, then (functionality aside) either Cocoon or Jetspeed can be used as a portal engine. If you meant something else, then I do not understand. Paul Spencer Ray Martin wrote: > Mr Spencer, > Yes, I understand that Cocoon and Jetspeed are not integrated "straight out > of the box" > > I meant that for right now one chooses to go the Turbine/Velocity path > (with Jetspeed right in there) or chooses the Cocoon path - that is what i > meant by an "alternative". I surely did not wish to insinuate that > Turbine/Velocity or Cocoon could alternatively be used with Jetspeed. > Sorry about the confusion. > > I did not ask the question. Mr Munis asked the question. He asked a > question that plays on everyone's mind when they enter the > jakarta.apache.org site - what is all of this great stuff? how can it best > be put to use? > > No one will ever find the answers to those questions in the mail list in a > single lifetime. The documentation (which the developers AND anyone who > uses the open source products are responsible to create and maintain) is > the source for gaining insight into the products. > > I certainly agree with you that some of us ask such open-ended question > that you would need to waste a great deal of time and energy to answer - > and that is just plain asking TOO much. We need to word our questions > better and look for previously answered questions. > > i am looking forward to the day when i have learned enough that i can > contribute, > Ray > > ---------- > From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: Jetspeed Users List > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:35 PM > To: Jetspeed Users List > Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. > > Ray, > Jetspeed directly uses Velocity and JSP for layout and content > generation. Turbine, ECS, Log4J, are also used by Jetspeed. Currently > it does NOT use Cocoon! Their has been interest in a Cocoon portlet for > a while, but it as not be implemented. Implementing a Cocoon portlet is > on the ToDo list. > > > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. > Not in Jetspeed! > > As to my "poor answer". I did not have the time to do the research need > to answer your question, but I knew it had been asked and answered > before and the answers where in the mailing list. I view the mailing > list a valuable resource that should be utilized. > > Paul Spencer > > Ray Martin wrote: > > >>that sure is a poor answer. you can search yur head off in the mailing >>list and know no more than you did before. >> >>i believe the answer to the question is very complex and therefore very >>time consuming to answer - but, no answer is better than "go look in the >>mailing list" >> >>You will probably need to spend quite a bit of time studying the various >>products to understand their uses and relationships. But, here is a tiny >>summary from my studies: >>Jetspeed uses Turbine and ECS >>Turbine uses Velocity, therefore, Jetspeed uses Velocity (though JSP is >>also an option) >>Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. >>Cocoon is based on Avalon - none of the other products are based on >> > Avalon > >>(this will cause the products to appear to be diametrically opposed) >>I have not familiarized myself with Struts - can't comment (it appears to >>be a framework in "competition" with Turbine). >>Don't forget that Turbine uses Torque for database activity. >> >>each product has their strengths and weaknesses. >> >>note that Avalon represents the "best of thinking" that i have come >> > across. > >>my personal goal for my projects is to use Jetspeed (which includes all >> > the > >>underpinnings) combined with Cocoon for complex presentation events - the >>Pipeline component of Cocoon. i think i want Cocoon pipelines available >> > in > >>Jetspeed portals - this is where i am designing to - hopefully i don't >> > fall > >>flat on my face... >> >>Ray >> >>---------- >>From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Reply To: Jetspeed Users List >>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:55 PM >>To: Jetspeed Users List >>Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. >> >>This question has been asked and answered many times. >>Search the mailing list, http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >>Paul Spencer >> >> >>Patrick Munis wrote: >> >> >> >>>I am new to Jetspeed and most Jakarta software. What's the relationship >>>between JetSpeed - Cocoon -Velocity- Turbine - Struts -ECS. Can they be >>>used together in a project?For example, Can I use cocoon's xsp in >>>Jetspeed? Are they competing technologies. I'll appreciate any >>>explanations. >>> >>>thanks >>>Patrick >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>For additional commands, e-mail: >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
