Mr Spencer, Yes, I understand that Cocoon and Jetspeed are not integrated "straight out of the box"
I meant that for right now one chooses to go the Turbine/Velocity path (with Jetspeed right in there) or chooses the Cocoon path - that is what i meant by an "alternative". I surely did not wish to insinuate that Turbine/Velocity or Cocoon could alternatively be used with Jetspeed. Sorry about the confusion. I did not ask the question. Mr Munis asked the question. He asked a question that plays on everyone's mind when they enter the jakarta.apache.org site - what is all of this great stuff? how can it best be put to use? No one will ever find the answers to those questions in the mail list in a single lifetime. The documentation (which the developers AND anyone who uses the open source products are responsible to create and maintain) is the source for gaining insight into the products. I certainly agree with you that some of us ask such open-ended question that you would need to waste a great deal of time and energy to answer - and that is just plain asking TOO much. We need to word our questions better and look for previously answered questions. i am looking forward to the day when i have learned enough that i can contribute, Ray ---------- From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Jetspeed Users List Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:35 PM To: Jetspeed Users List Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. Ray, Jetspeed directly uses Velocity and JSP for layout and content generation. Turbine, ECS, Log4J, are also used by Jetspeed. Currently it does NOT use Cocoon! Their has been interest in a Cocoon portlet for a while, but it as not be implemented. Implementing a Cocoon portlet is on the ToDo list. > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. Not in Jetspeed! As to my "poor answer". I did not have the time to do the research need to answer your question, but I knew it had been asked and answered before and the answers where in the mailing list. I view the mailing list a valuable resource that should be utilized. Paul Spencer Ray Martin wrote: > that sure is a poor answer. you can search yur head off in the mailing > list and know no more than you did before. > > i believe the answer to the question is very complex and therefore very > time consuming to answer - but, no answer is better than "go look in the > mailing list" > > You will probably need to spend quite a bit of time studying the various > products to understand their uses and relationships. But, here is a tiny > summary from my studies: > Jetspeed uses Turbine and ECS > Turbine uses Velocity, therefore, Jetspeed uses Velocity (though JSP is > also an option) > Cocoon is an alternative to Turbine/Velocity. > Cocoon is based on Avalon - none of the other products are based on Avalon > (this will cause the products to appear to be diametrically opposed) > I have not familiarized myself with Struts - can't comment (it appears to > be a framework in "competition" with Turbine). > Don't forget that Turbine uses Torque for database activity. > > each product has their strengths and weaknesses. > > note that Avalon represents the "best of thinking" that i have come across. > > my personal goal for my projects is to use Jetspeed (which includes all the > underpinnings) combined with Cocoon for complex presentation events - the > Pipeline component of Cocoon. i think i want Cocoon pipelines available in > Jetspeed portals - this is where i am designing to - hopefully i don't fall > flat on my face... > > Ray > > ---------- > From: Paul Spencer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: Jetspeed Users List > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:55 PM > To: Jetspeed Users List > Subject: Re: What's the relationship between JetSpeed - Cocoon -.. > > This question has been asked and answered many times. > Search the mailing list, http://www.mail-archive.com. > > Paul Spencer > > > Patrick Munis wrote: > > >>I am new to Jetspeed and most Jakarta software. What's the relationship >>between JetSpeed - Cocoon -Velocity- Turbine - Struts -ECS. Can they be >>used together in a project?For example, Can I use cocoon's xsp in >>Jetspeed? Are they competing technologies. I'll appreciate any >>explanations. >> >>thanks >>Patrick >> >> >> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
