Thank you for this information. I will remember it hence forth. One of the saddest things, I think, is that Freedom Scientific changes key strokes from version to version. Also operations such as activating mouse over is something people, as am I, with limited functioning of the hands and fingers find impossible. As I do enjoy typing using a traditional keyboard without invoking sticky keys. In any case, I wouldn't want to invoke sticky keys to use a single key stroke. When I learned using Jaws version 2, the reason I chose the screen reader over Window-eyes, was the ability to use less complex key strokes. Now, it seems, there is little difference between the two. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike B. To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Jaws 10 Virtual Viewer Keystroke
Hi Angel, I changed the subject line to correspond to your question. The keystroke for virtualizing a window with Jaws 10 is, Insert / Jaws Key, Control, + W. HTH Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Angel To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here? I do have a question about Jaws version 10. I forgot the key stroke to turn on the virtual viewer. There are times when I find the virtual viewer most useful. I use to know the key stroke for turning it on. But I have been unsuccessful in finding it in the Jaws help tutorial for Jaws version 10. So, if any of you can assist me with this I would be most greatful. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:40 PM Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here? > This problem with the forms mode has been getting worse with later > versions of JAWS. It has gotten to the point where I leave my forms mode > to manual, so that it is on when I press enter. The word edit for text > entry is heard no matter the state of the forms mode. > > > On 12/31/2015 8:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> Your comment about "false enhancement" rings true, at least in >> a way, even to me. I can't tell you how many times I've had a client >> land in an edit field, where that's not where I want (or they want) to >> be and I've succumbed to saying something along the lines of, "We're >> looking for a button, so hit 'B' and that will take you to the first >> button on the screen." Unfortunately, when you're in auto forms mode, >> of course it doesn't do that and interprets the 'B' as you typing the >> letter B. >> >> Am I correct in my assumption that if the auto feature is >> turned off, you will still get the announcement that you are indeed in >> an edit field (or what have you), but you must hit a single Enter, which >> switches you in to forms mode and that all typed characters after that >> will be entered into the edit field, which you then have to hit Num Pad >> Plus to shift out of forms mode and back to navigation mode? Gads, but >> that's a long-winded question that I don't quite know how to rephrase!! >> >> As an unrelated aside, oldster that I am I still sometimes refer >> to enter as return, and I warn my clients that if they hear me say >> return I mean enter. I guess for anyone who ever used an electric >> typewriter this definitely makes sense. Thank heavens my really old >> computer geek doesn't come out where I would say CR LF, which is short >> for carriage return line feed! >> >> Brian >> >> > > -- > > Sunny Day > Maria Campbell > [email protected] > > Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others. > > >
