I do have a question about Jaws version 10. I forgot the key stroke to turn on the virtual viewer. There are times when I find the virtual viewer most useful. I use to know the key stroke for turning it on. But I have been unsuccessful in finding it in the Jaws help tutorial for Jaws version 10. So, if any of you can assist me with this I would be most greatful. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Campbell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?


This problem with the forms mode has been getting worse with later versions of JAWS. It has gotten to the point where I leave my forms mode to manual, so that it is on when I press enter. The word edit for text entry is heard no matter the state of the forms mode.


On 12/31/2015 8:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Adrian,

         Your comment about "false enhancement" rings true, at least in
a way, even to me.  I can't tell you how many times I've had a client
land in an edit field, where that's not where I want (or they want) to
be and I've succumbed to saying something along the lines of, "We're
looking for a button, so hit 'B' and that will take you to the first
button on the screen."  Unfortunately, when you're in auto forms mode,
of course it doesn't do that and interprets the 'B' as you typing the
letter B.

          Am I correct in my assumption that if the auto feature is
turned off, you will still get the announcement that you are indeed in
an edit field (or what have you), but you must hit a single Enter, which
switches you in to forms mode and that all typed characters after that
will be entered into the edit field, which you then have to hit Num Pad
Plus to shift out of forms mode and back to navigation mode?  Gads, but
that's a long-winded question that I don't quite know how to rephrase!!

       As an unrelated aside, oldster that I am I still sometimes refer
to enter as  return, and I warn my clients that if they hear me say
return I mean enter.  I guess for anyone who ever used an electric
typewriter this definitely makes sense.   Thank heavens my really old
computer geek doesn't come out where I would say CR LF, which is short
for carriage return line feed!

Brian



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