Actually, I mentioned 2010 only because that's what qualifies one for the 
program.  JAWS does a fine job on 2010, but we have one Internet app that's a 
real washout.  The vendor says it's accessible, and I have to keep proving it 
isn't.  We've even discussed Window Eyes a time or two, but I wasn't going to 
ask my cabinet to pour money down what could prove to be a dry well.  With no 
financial risk, though, that might be a horse of a different color.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Ted,

Yes, window eyes does give the option of choosing a jaws style layout for basic 
commands, though I have to say it didn't help me very much since the window 
eyes control panel is still the window eyes control panel and I found it 
confusing and hard to deal with.

This is just my experience and I know others are having success with window 
eyes.

What specifically is giving you trouble in office 2010? I use office
2010 at work and office 2013 at home with little trouble. Maybe I can help.

Kimber

On 5/19/14, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are you guys saying that you can choose a JAWS-style layout?  That 
> ought to flatten the learning curve a bit for some of us.  We use 
> Office 2010 at the office, and you're really starting me thinking.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petro T.
> Giannakopoulos via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:25 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes
>
> The reason is the audio tutorials I listened to are using the default 
> layout so it makes it easier to follow.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: RE: Jaws To Window Eyes
>
>
> Petro:
>
> Thanks so much for this very helpful information.
>
> I do have one question, though:
>
> Can you tell me why you decided to use the default lay-out rather than 
> the Jaws lay-out for Window Eyes?
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petro T.
> Giannakopoulos via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:06 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes
>
> Window-Eyes Tutorials
> http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
>
> Two or more screen readers can exist on the same computer but you 
> should make Window-Eyes during the install to be set to not start up 
> nor at the log on screen. Checkboxes for these two should be unchecked 
> so you will not have two screen readers boot up at the same time. Look 
> for the tutorial on how to do a Window-Eyes custom installation.
>
> Yes, you can use Eloquence synthesizer with Window-Eyes.
>
> I strongly recommend reading the tutorials or listening to the MP3s on 
> how to use Window-Eyes first.
>
> Key hotkeys,
> ctrl-/ brings up the Window-Eyes control panel
> ctrl-insert-F4 allows you shut down window-eyes insert=-t for the time 
> ctrl-shift-t for the title bar ctrl-shift-r for read to end of 
> document ctrl-shift-w read dialog ctrl-shift-s summary message, use 
> while in a list view for example
>
>
> It will take time to learn this screen reader. They have a JAWS layout 
> but I am using the default layout.
>
> I have been using this screen reader for two days now but if it were 
> not for the audio tutorials I would have not done so.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:41 AM
> Subject: Jaws To Window Eyes
>
>
> Hello, again.
>
> In an attempt to have an alternative to Jaws, I'm seriously 
> considering putting Window Eyes on at least one computer here.
>
> However, I have heard from several sources that having two screen 
> readers on the same computer can create real issues, if things are not 
> done properly.
>
> Also, can I configure Window Eyes to work with Elloquence, which is 
> what Jaws currently uses?
>
> Finally, I'd like to know how much of a learning curve is going to be 
> involved with learning to use Window Eyes, especially since I have 
> been a Jaws user for about the last 20 years.
>
> My time to learn a new speech screen reader is limited, although I 
> will certainly try to do so if it would be in my best interest.
>
> If this post is considered to be "off topic" for this list, I want to 
> apologize in advance to the moderator and other list members.  I 
> simply don't know where else to ask this question, given the various 
> e-mail lists to which I belong.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
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