At 13:09 02/06/2004 +0200, Miguel wrote:

>>opacity is something that scares me.
>
> You mean the technical implementation?  Would you settle for
> visibility="on/off"?

If it is just on/off then the basic functionality is already built into jmol.

When I first read it I was thinking of transparency/translucency ... like
an alpha channel.

So was I! It's what we use in SVG/2D. But I wanted to be less scary. I would guess that transparency/translucency is something that people will be asking for at some stage. But I appreciate it is a lot of effort. I assume it's easier in 2D where there is a painter's model and an object is convoluted with the pixels that remain visible





>>Q: What would be the purpose of having general graphical shapes as part
>> of
>>a reaction?
>
> It isn't just reactions - we might have things like molecular surfaces,
> spheres representing the QM region, etc.. But again this isn't high
> priority

OK


>>Q: what is a 'curly arrow' ? > > A paper-device for representing the movement of electrons. With animation > the movement can be explicit shown - this is a major benefit.

OK

It is possibly valuable to have bonds swing between atoms rather like gates in a field:


A B
|
C

changes to
A-B

C

in SVG we can interpolate so we have intermediates like
A B
 \
C

where the bond is halfway between B and C.

But an alternative is to have BC fade out and AB increase in intensity.

>>However, there is currently no mechanism to specify these attributes as
>>part of the file format. That is, within the molecular model file there
>> is
>>no way to specify atom attributes like color or size. I do not think it
>>would be difficult to do, but there is something about it that makes me
>>uncomfortable. I will need to think about that.
>
> I agree. I think the models and their presentation should be completely
> separate. So that various styles could be applied to certain molecules and
> different ones to others.

OK

But, is it the case that you want all this information coming out of the
same .cml file?

It's a wider issue for Jmol and related to XML/CSS stylesheets. It may be value for a user to define their own style for Jmol style and to apply it on style-free content. I would certainly separate these in some way in the CML file - in fact at present style is deliberately not part of CML unlike some other molecular formats (mainly 2D).


P.


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