one last thing -- all works properly when you deselect the Java option to
use the cache, right?
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Robert Hanson <[email protected]> wrote:
> also, Phil, you will need to be very specific as to browser version. I'm
> not seeing the problem on my Mac with Firefox 3.5.7. But it almost certainly
> related to newer security measures that Firefox has installed. Apparently
> Java access to its cache is considered local file access and is being
> blocked.
>
> Just to make sure, am I right about this:
>
> 1) Mac only
> 2) Firefox/Mozilla only
> 3) Firefox -- what version?
> 4) Only when Firefox is closed and then reopened and sent to the same site
> (what is odd about this is that the Java cache is supposed to be
> cleared automatically in that case)
>
> Ah -- now, does that mean that you have some special setting in Java that
> does not clear the cache when the browser closes. That has always been my
> experience -- and it's important -- that the Java cache is only for a single
> browser session. That's how I test the applet -- close the browser and
> re-open it to ensure that the applet is loaded again.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Robert Hanson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> you need to report this to Bugzilla.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Philip Bays <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I think I have just diagnosed the problem, but not the solution.
>>>
>>> I have opened the java preferences and completely cleared the cache. (I
>>> know Angel, you said that in the first place.) Indeed, firefox loads both
>>> structures as expected and three items now appear in the java cache -- the
>>> applet and each of the molecule files.
>>>
>>> If I now close firefox, reopen it, and access the page, the error occurs.
>>> If I remove the chlorophyll file from the java cache, then restart firefox,
>>> it works, again putting chlorophyl in the cache. Upon restarting firefox,
>>> the error again occurs.
>>>
>>> If I turn off java caching, there are no problems. For some reason,
>>> Firefox does not like chlorophyll in cache.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
>>>
>>> Phil,
>>>
>>> I'm just curious about something: On a browser that throws the error
>>> loading chlorophyll, what happens if you execute the following JavaScript
>>> command from the location window (address field) while the first stucture is
>>> displayed in Jmol?
>>>
>>> javascript:jmolScript("load Structures/chlorophyll.pdb")
>>>
>>> I'm just bypassing the button above to see if the problem is via the
>>> button route???
>>>
>>> Otis
>>>
>>> Otis Rothenbergerchemagic.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/24/2010 6:38 AM, Philip Bays wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, I got the code right. But it does not work on all browsers. I see
>>> no difference with this code than what I was observing before. Namely, on
>>> the Mac, and the Mac only, and a freshly started mozilla browser (Firefox,
>>> Camino, SeaMonkey), the first structure loads fine, but the chlorophyll
>>> structure throws a java access error with the unsigned applet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html<http://www.saintmarys.edu/%7Epbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html>
>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT2.html<http://www.saintmarys.edu/%7Epbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT2.html>
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, these pages look much better. So what are the results?
>>>
>>> The page NT1 should load on all platforms with no issues at all. It is
>>> precisely the stated way of doing things.
>>>
>>> Same for NT2. And from this one I can save the state - see attached.
>>> (Just drag that PNG file into the app or applet.)
>>>
>>> Was that just the issue? That Phil was trying to load models before the
>>> applet was ready?
>>>
>>> One of the nice things about the signed applet on the web is that all the
>>> file references are http:// <http:/> references and you have the menu
>>> option to save the PNG image. This image actually contains the full Jmol
>>> state (as a trailing comment), so when you save the IMAGE to your hard
>>> drive, you can still load that image into Jmol and it will work. Really
>>> quite magical. I just did this with the chlorophyll example, and it still
>>> amazes me that it is possible.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Otis Rothenberger <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Phil and Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused about Bob's last note, but the following point may be
>>>> relevant:
>>>>
>>>> I get the same message as below, but it looks like Phil is on a Unix
>>>> system - case sensitive.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html<http://www.saintmarys.edu/%7Epbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html>does
>>>> not exist, buts
>>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html<http://www.saintmarys.edu/%7Epbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html>does
>>>> exist.
>>>>
>>>> Otis
>>>>
>>>> Otis Rothenbergerchemagic.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/23/2010 4:03 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *We're sorry...*
>>>>
>>>> The page you are looking for:
>>>>
>>>> */~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Philip Bays <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK Bob, et. al.:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to mimic a piece of one of your pages, namely:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried to view this page in Firefox, but you are using the
>>>>> signed applet. Everything I have tried, even the stuff I should never,
>>>>> ever, ever do:-) works with the signed applet for me, and I may ultimately
>>>>> go that route.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I have the same issues with Firefox on the Mac with the new
>>>>> script. I have loaded it at:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html<http://www.saintmarys.edu/%7Epbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> The equivalent path to NT2.html is the signed applet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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>> it is better to take what answer we get.
>>
>> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Robert M. Hanson
> Professor of Chemistry
> St. Olaf College
> 1520 St. Olaf Ave.
> Northfield, MN 55057
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>
>
> If nature does not answer first what we want,
> it is better to take what answer we get.
>
> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
>
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