OK.   But first -- I would like someone using a Mac to confirm that they 
observe this on the site as well.

On Jul 24, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

> you need to report this to Bugzilla. 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Philip Bays <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think I have just diagnosed the problem, but not the solution.
> 
> I have opened the java preferences and completely cleared the cache. (I know 
> Angel, you said that in the first place.)  Indeed, firefox loads both 
> structures as expected and three items now appear in the java cache -- the 
> applet and each of the molecule files.
> 
> If I now close firefox, reopen it, and access the page, the error occurs.  If 
> I remove the chlorophyll file from the java cache, then restart firefox, it 
> works, again putting chlorophyl in the cache.  Upon restarting firefox, the 
> error again occurs.
> 
> If I turn off java caching, there are no problems.   For some reason, Firefox 
> does not like chlorophyll in cache.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
> 
>> Phil,
>> 
>> I'm just curious about something: On a browser that throws the error loading 
>> chlorophyll, what happens if you execute the following JavaScript command 
>> from the location window (address field) while the first stucture is 
>> displayed in Jmol?
>> 
>> javascript:jmolScript("load Structures/chlorophyll.pdb")
>> 
>> I'm just bypassing the button above to see if the problem is via the button 
>> route???
>> 
>> Otis
>> Otis Rothenberger
>> chemagic.com
>> 
>> On 7/24/2010 6:38 AM, Philip Bays wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I got the code right.   But it does not work on all browsers.   I see  
>>> no difference with this code than what I was observing before.  Namely, on 
>>> the Mac, and the Mac only, and a freshly started mozilla browser (Firefox, 
>>> Camino, SeaMonkey), the first structure loads fine, but the chlorophyll 
>>> structure throws a java access error with the unsigned applet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html
>>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT2.html
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, yes, these pages look much better. So what are the results? 
>>>> 
>>>> The page NT1 should load on all platforms with no issues at all. It is 
>>>> precisely the stated way of doing things. 
>>>> 
>>>> Same for NT2. And from this one I can save the state - see attached. (Just 
>>>> drag that PNG file into the app or applet.) 
>>>> 
>>>> Was that just the issue? That Phil was trying to load models before the 
>>>> applet was ready?
>>>> 
>>>> One of the nice things about the signed applet on the web is that all the 
>>>> file references are http:// references and you have the menu option to 
>>>> save the PNG image. This image actually contains the full Jmol state (as a 
>>>> trailing comment), so when you save the IMAGE to your hard drive, you can 
>>>> still load that image into Jmol and it will work. Really quite magical. I 
>>>> just did this with the chlorophyll example, and it still amazes me that it 
>>>> is possible. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Otis Rothenberger <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Phil and Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm confused about Bob's last note, but the following point may be 
>>>> relevant:
>>>> 
>>>> I get the same message as below, but it looks like Phil is on a Unix 
>>>> system - case sensitive.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html does not exist, 
>>>> buts http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html does exist.
>>>> 
>>>> Otis
>>>>  Otis Rothenberger
>>>> chemagic.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/23/2010 4:03 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>> We're sorry...
>>>>> 
>>>>> The page you are looking for:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Philip Bays <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> OK Bob, et. al.:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried to mimic a piece of one of your pages, namely:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also tried to view this page in Firefox, but you are using the signed 
>>>>> applet.   Everything I have tried, even the stuff I should never, ever, 
>>>>> ever do:-) works with the signed applet for me, and I may ultimately go 
>>>>> that route.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I have the same issues with Firefox on the Mac with the new 
>>>>> script.  I have loaded it at:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JSTest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> The equivalent path to NT2.html is the signed applet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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