I had no problems on a g4 with 10.4.11 and a fresh Firefox (3.6.8).
On 7/25/10 10:24 AM, "Robert Hanson" <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
OK, I've tested this on my Mac with a freshly downloaded Firefox 3.6.8.
No such problem.
Phil, it looks to me like it might be a bad early version of 3.6.8.
Mac users -- we need you to try this on Firefox 3.6.8:
1. load http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/JStest/HTMLFiles/NT1.html
2. click on the link under the applet to display chlorophyl
3. close the browser
4. open the browser
5 repeat steps 1 and 2.
Phil's experience is that in step 5 the click will not work.
My experience is that it will work.
Please report EXACT Firefox version.
Bob
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
Phil, I went ahead and added a comment to that bug report to see what they say.
I'll try to dig up Firefox 3.6.8 on a Mac around here to get additional
specifics.
Bob
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
Phil, wait, there are a couple more issues before you go back to them.
1) Did you say in that bug report that the signed applet has the same problem?
That would be a BIG and different issue.
2) The first structure always loads, right? That indicates that Java can access
its cache appropriately.
3) If only the second structure loading does not work, what we have is a
JavaScript thread issue. It is the JavaScript/LiveConnect THREAD that is being
blocked.
4) Tests you need to do:
I. Try opening a console and issuing the load command from there. If it loads,
then it is DEFINITELY a browser liveConnect thread blocking issue.
II. Try that again using the useCommandThread TRUE.
Bob
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
You should be able to get any version of Firefox, and in fact, if you search
your Mac applications directory you will probably find it. Just start it.
OK, I have run a little test:
1. Monitor the Java Cache before and after starting the browser and loading
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm
2. Close the browser
3. Repeat step 1.
4. Close the browser
5. Upload a NEW caffeine.xyz
6. Repeat step 1.
Findings:
1. Java never "clears its cache." It just stores the file and the header that
came from the server associated with that file. That header contains a date.
2. It looks like Java just first sends a message to a server asking for a
header, and if the header matches the one in the cache, then the file is not
downloaded, and the cached file is used instead. This is pretty standard
operation.
OK, so why the security bug? Obviously it is a Firefox bug. Doesn't happen in
older browsers; only appears with Mac 3.6.8. You need to respond to that bug
report reply and be very clear about that. It would be especially good if you
have verified that it all works with Firefox/Mac 3.5.7.
The bug is this (if you can confirm it on your Mac, Phil)
Observation: Java applet running in Firefox 3.6.8/Mac specifically hit a
security violation when trying to read a file that was previously cached in a
prior browser session.
Comments: This bug is specific to Firefox 3.6.8/Mac. It does not appear with
other operating systems and it does not appear with Firefox 3.5.7. All works
appropriately within one browser session, but after the browser is closed and
then re-opened, the applet cannot access any locally cached data file from that
previous session opened using Java's URL.openConnection() method.
Bob
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Robert Hanson
<hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
Right - that does make sense -- submit a Java bug report, then. Make sure you
have the latest Java available.
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Philip Bays <pb...@saintmarys.edu> wrote:
Does this response make sense to anyone? If Firefox does not look at java
cache, how can adjusting the cache (removing a file, turning it on or off) have
any affect? Because it is a bug in java that does not affect non-mozilla
browsers???
Phil
Begin forwarded message:
From: bugzilla-dae...@mozilla.org
Date: July 25, 2010 4:52:35 AM EDT
To: pb...@saintmarys.edu
Subject: [Bug 581717] Firefox does not read java cache correctly
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581717
Jo Hermans <jo.herm...@gmail.com> changed:
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CC| |jo.herm...@gmail.com
Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #1 from Jo Hermans <jo.herm...@gmail.com> 2010-07-25 01:52:33 PDT
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That is a problem in your version of Java, Firefox doesn't read that cache at
all. That's why you see the problem on Mac, but not on Windows (different
versions).
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