Mary wrote:

>  Kill our
> people and we'll give you lots of aid.  Huh?  

We cannot forget that the aid (relative to Fred's plan and our food drops in 
Afghanistan) is not being given to the terrorists.  In this particularly 
instance, it is being given to the Afghani people, the overwhelming majority of 
whom are not terrorists.  Let's not forget that bin Laden is not even from 
Afghanistan!  His father is Saudi and his mother is Syrian.  I don't think 
there is even a piece of evidence to substantiate that even one of the 19 
hijackers was from Afghanistan.  

As much as there may be more comfort in trying to draw a clearly divisible line 
in the sand, it just isn't that simple.  The war on terrorism is one thing.  
The bombing of Afghanistan is just one part of it.

Below is an excerpt from an article by Philip C. Wilcox, Jr. a retired Foreign 
Service Officer who served for three years as U.S. ambassador-at-large for 
counterterrorism.  The article was published in  the October 18th issue of the 
New York Review of Books.  Bear in mind it was written on September 19th, so 
some of what he speaks of has happened already.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14636

"Armed force, however, while politically popular, is usually an ineffective and 
often counterproductive weapon against terror. Before acting, the US would be 
wise to construct a more sophisticated strategy. This should include 
strengthening traditional methods of counterterrorism, while reserving the use 
of force as a limited option. But a new national security strategy must also 
include a broader foreign policy that moves away from unilateralism and toward 
closer engagement with other governments, and that deals not just with the 
symptoms but with the roots of terrorism, broadly defined. 

"We should also search for ways to strengthen the common bonds between Western 
values and Islam to combat the notion of a "clash of civilizations" and to 
weaken the Islamist extremist fringe that hates the West and supports terrorist 
actions. Such new departures in US foreign policy would require devoting far 
greater resources to support a more engaged, cooperative, and influential 
American role abroad. Redefining national security and counterterrorism in this 
broader sense is the most promising way to fight the war against terrorism. "

Striving for a "more engaged, cooperative and influential American role abroad" 
has influenced the decisions the President has made since 9/11.  He has spoken 
in support of a Palestinian state.  He went to China (not the least reason for 
which, I'll bet, is China's radical islamist population in its most oil rich 
Northern province).  We've dropped sanctions against Pakistan.  

We are engaged in overthrowing a government despite the fact that the President 
ran on a platform of not being into nation building.  (Imagine the headache he 
had the night he realized that our response would require just that.  And the 
rhetoric in the media seems to now emphasize that our objective is moreso the 
overthrow of the Taliban than the capture of bin Laden.  Secretary Rumsfeld has 
commented more than once on bin Laden's potential elusiveness, perhaps in an 
attempt to prepare the public for the fact that we may never catch him.)

And certainly there were numerous unpublicized but necessary concessions which 
were made to get the world coalition formed and to hold it together.  On top of 
it all, Ramadan begins November 17th.  If we continue strikes during the Muslim 
holy month, we risk losing the support of Islamist nations like Indonesia and 
the global coalition could begin to come unglued.  Without the coalition, there 
is no war.

And these are only the things which have been publicized that I've read about.  
**And by the way, I'm not making a judgment about any of these things one way 
or the other.  I've tried to state them as plainly as possible and to separate 
my opinion where necessary.  I hope it reads that way.**

There has been at least one call for someone here to propose an alternative to 
the bombing.  Truly how can anyone on this list answer that in any manner but 
an ideological one?  There's too much we don't know.  

(For instance, I keep wondering about the trials for the U.S.S. Cole and the 
African embassy bombings.  Do we have evidence that implicates bin Laden in 
those attacks?  If so, shouldn't that be sufficient to present for the Taliban 
to turn him over for an international criminal trial?  Protection of 
intelligence sources has been given as the reason for not turning over evidence 
relative to 9/11, but has there been any comment on presenting evidence on 
Africa & the Cole?  Is it possible that we are holding back because we've made 
a deal with one of the Taliban's enemies which requires us to support the 
overthrow?)

The war on terrorism is justified in my book.  But whether the battle of  
Afghanistan proves to be an efficacy step in the war can only be answered by 
the passing of time - as more things that are now hidden become revealed and 
outcomes both expected and unexpected are faced.

Brenda
n.p.: Mica Paris - "More Love" (Whatever happened to her anyway?)

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