>>>I'd like to chime in here.  I don't believe in giving peace any more of a
chance than it's already gotten (remember, the Taliban had a month to turn
over bin laden).  Frankly, I think all this peace talk does not reflect
reality.<<<<

I don't think peace was ever really given a chance. I cringed the moment
that ultimatum of turning over bin laden was declared. I am sure the
president felt he needed to appease people who wanted to see bin laden pay.
But I imagine the US US citizens would have supported him saying, we are
going to try & get bin laden but we are going to do it a different way. And
then gone about enacting the plan that has already been suggested here by
Fred.

>>>>Remember the 6,000 people who were killed?  We didn't ask for that,
and if we don't strike back, we're saying their lives are in essence
worthless.<<<<

Why do people believe that striking back is the only way to achieve justice?
I have never understood that reasoning.

>>>>Kill our people and we'll give you lots of aid.  Huh?  All
through the 90's, we failed to retaliate when struck and now we get
this.<<<<

There is some confusion here. No one has suggested providing aid to bin
laden & his followers. The Afghan people are not responsible for this
tragedy.

>>>There are a lot of people who hate us.  I don't care why they hate us;
they
just do.  Whether it's our fault or not (and I think much of it is not) is
beside the point.  We have to strike back when we are attacked this
violently.<<<

I think it is important to understand why some people feel this way. Some of
it may have roots in US foreign policy & some may not. But for our us to
ignore this, at this time, would be dangerous in my opinion. I think there
is lots we can do to gain favor in the world & this is the time to do so.
But first we must understand.

>>>I agree that there has been a very great deal of anti-American sentiment
expressed on this site.  It's gone beyond criticizing to demonizing.  When
you paint the US as more evil than the Taliban and Bin Laden, which I think
a
number of these posts have done, you demonize us.  I've seen too many emails
along the lines of "poor victim bin laden, protecting his culture against
the
evil US".  That is demonizing us.<<<

There has been criticism of US foreign policy, past & present. That is not
anti-American. Maybe someone who believes that the criticism of foreign
policy is anti-American needs to define what they believe being pro-American
is...is it supporting the president right or wrong? Is someone who holds the
position of president always right? Isn't being pro-American about believing
in democracy, about differing views, about freedom of speech, etc? There is
a long history of dissent in our country that has brought about positive
change. Isn't this pro-American?

>>>A number of you are going to be offended by this.  I'm sorry, but I've
been
equally offended at all of the "evil US" stuff I've been hearing around here
lately.  For example, that IMO disgusting editorial by Barbara Kingsolver.
When people strike us like that, we just can't roll over and die.<<<

Hs anyone said the US was evil? I haven't read that anywhere here.

I believe our president did a very good job of speaking up for the Muslim
people & making sure that the US citizens did not blaim all of the Muslim
world. In the early days I was shocked to hear some (not here on this list)
ranting about how all of the Islams (they meant Muslims) must pay.

I just read the Michael Kelly articles. His representation of people who are
not in support of this war are based on an extremist charactiture rather
than a real understanding of the issues.   In my opinion, his writing was
more inflamatory than thoughtful.

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