> furthermore, i think nietsche's statement is perverse in its avoidance of
> the fact that art is always searching to describe what's outside of
itself.
> does joni think writing should only be about writing?  does she write
music
> that's only about music?  is poetry about love lame because it's not
> actually love?  of course not, but neitsche and joni miss that point.
> 

This excerpt from a Neil Young interview below I think really captures the
idea about art, music in this case, searching to describe what's outside of
itself.  I think Joni's statement is more about herself, as statements
often are, that "she" probably couldn't write about music...but some people
do very well...

Victor

*EXCERPT from 

New York Times - Sunday Magazine 7/30/00

Neil Young On a Good Day
By Steve Erickson 


''I just didn't like people telling me what to do,'' he explains almost
offhandedly. ''I didn't like people telling me if I made more records like
'Harvest,' I would be successful. That's when I came up with the concept of
destroying what I created in order to move on. I wanted to do what I called
audio verite.'' 

He pauses and looks out the window. ''At a certain point, trained,
accomplished musicians'' -- which is to say, not him -- hit the wall. They
don't go there very often, they don't have the tools to go through the
wall, because it's the end of notes. It's the other side, where there's
only tone, sound, ambience, landscape, earthquakes, pictures, fireworks,
the sky opening, buildings falling, subways collapsing. . . . When you go
through the wall, the music takes on that kind of atmosphere, and it
doesn't translate the way other music translates. When you get to the other
side, you can't go back. I don't know too many musicians who try to go
through the wall.'' He stops for a moment. ''I love to go through the
wall,'' as if you ever doubted it for a moment. 

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