Kakki wrote:
<<I sense that with Tom Scott and some of her earlier
"collaborators" it just sort of came together serendipitously, like it
started out unplanned and they just naturally grooved off and enhanced
Joni's music. In that way, I don't consider them exactly collaborators, but
rather, contributors. So often it seems that if you plan and deliberate on a
creative project, the end product often falls a little shorter than if you'd
just come upon it naturally or spontaneously. Too much planning and
deliberation almost sets up a forced creativity. Scott and the others in
the earlier period seemed to find a fortuitous natural niche with Joni, but
when she made a calculated decision to go and collaborate creatively with
Mingus, and later with Klein, that sense of essential "Joni-ness" was a
little muted. The calculated collaborations did not seem to bring out the
highest in Joni and did the earlier ones that occurred naturally. So while
I don't ever want her to go purposely looking to hook up with another famous
musician just to see what might happen, I would still love if she happened
to find an affinity with another that brought out the very best in her.
Kakki>>
i think that's a bang on take kakki...a brilliant analysis...you are a veiled
artist...you
i can add this...these were not even mingus' best by a long shot...i've got a
few of his stunning albums with alot better songs than he gave to poor
joni...i agree wholeheartedly that she intimidatedly when along with something
too forced...
"Dry Cleaner from Des Moines" is the only composition on it that reaches near
to mingus' capability (imho)...with joni's own "Wolf that Lives in Lindsay" a
brilliant second...some places on this album the melodies just don't jive with
joni...she sings better jazz now after more experience...she hesitated you
know in the production of this thing...as if she should have said no to some
of it...like, i need some better songs, charles (like, is "that" our car,
Charles?)...or at least, better for joni...what you (and Mark) had to say
kakki encapsulates a conversation i had with a jaco fan jazz bassist friend
perfectly!
and west coast? how about brian wilson, one of the best in the world ever!
names too numerous to mention...
yes let's fantasize joni collaborating with the right muse with the right
stuff...let loose a brian wilson on her....wow...
shane
http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong
p.s. all the best anne...i've never had the chance to interact, but i
sincerely wish for you all felicity and fortunicity too...