On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 01:04:17PM -0600, Orie Steele wrote:
> AFAIK, there are still no proposals on the table to register hybrid
> signature schemes for JOSE or COSE.
> 
> I suppose we are lucky that we can't go faster than NIST on signatures
> anyway : )

>From LAMPS discussion about hybrid signatures, turns out hybrid
signatures are hard.

Much more complicated than hybrid KEMs, and especially Xwing (and
derivates).


> Since it's been a while since we presented these drafts, when they were
> adopted by COSE we agreed to hold them until the dust settles.
> 
> For now, we are just trying to keep them aligned with the name and
> parameter set changes that have happened since they were adopted.

Unfortunately there may be a nasty surprise (pre-hashing) ahead...

I think best way to hedge against that would be to work on native COSE
and JOSE mechanisms on pre-hashing (via "manifests") and then use that
instead of pre-hashing on the signature algorithm.

Such mechanism would also help on Ed25519 and Ed448.


> I'm reading between the lines here, that perhaps I should wait to add the
> full parameter set for SPHINCS+ ? * crosses fingers hoping for a yes *

Well, the full parameter set is not even known yet. :-/

And the s vs. f is a pretty annoying tradeoff: Smaller signatures, but
much slower signing versus larger signatures and much faster signing.
And the two are not compatible.




-Ilari

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