I don't have a strong preference on JCL vs SLF4J, as I haven't personally experienced many CL issues using JCL.

But I'm curious, if SLF4J is good enough for large open-source projects like Spring (OSGI), Hibernate, and MINA to standardize on, why is it not good enough for JSecurity?

To mitigate the size of the download, you could always distribute a jsecurity.zip and jsecurity-with-dependencies.zip just like Spring does.




On Jul 17, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

Ah, I see what he/you were saying now, and yes, I agree with that. My POV is that it is not worth arguing about any more until a *need* surfaces.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:

Les Hazlewood wrote:

Maybe you didn't read the email thoroughly:


Alan just said that when you wrote :

"I will be happy to re-visit this issue if end-users start to complain
about JCL or express a definite *need* for SLF4J..."

this is your POV, not the community POV. If we decide that we need to move to SLF4J, as a community, then we will do it, even if users don't complain
about CL issues. If we need a formal vote about it, then let's vote.

That being said, reverting the code to its previous state before injecting
it to Apache was the best thing to do, IMO.

Thanks !


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