On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I'm pretty sure we won't be using the beanutils based config but
> rather use either our embedding API or our Spring based config. The
> latter currently bring in jcl-over-slf4j so that's not a win anyways.


We love Spring, for sure.  But if you want to do any web-based security
(user x can't access url y), then you'll want to use the web.xml config.
This doesn't sound necessary for an FTP server of course, but if you needed
web-based management, it might be something to think about - I'm just
throwing it out there ;)

Well, maybe because SLF4J has made JCL redundant. Also, Ceki who's the
> author of SLF4J is a long-time Apache commiter and, Apache projects
> (at least not those I follow) don't tend to prefer a dependency just
> because it's at Apache. If it's under a compatible license and is a
> stable project, great.


Oh, I thought there was a preference.  That is, when we had to form our
Proposal for incubation, one of the questions was how we have "Ties to other
Apache products" - this led me to believe that it is important within the
ASF to eat its own dogfood if possible.  I don't see why JCL 2.0 couldn't be
that dogfood.  But I now understand why it isn't.

I still feel that is too bad - it would be nice to just use JCL still.
Especially with the ubiquity that it has - it would make it a much easier
thing for an organization to upgrade to JCL 2.0 than to switch to a
different framework entirely - many times you have to get this approved by
standards bodies, etc.  Life is just easier to upgrade a library that almost
everyone uses already.

Les

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