I'm quite happy to stick with Ant+Ivy if we can't agree on a new build
system.  It would take a herculean effort for me to vote for Maven, as
it is also my least favorite solution.  I just think the Groovy-based
tools are much nicer, and it would be nice to use one in JSecurity.

Here's what prompted this thread to begin with:

We were using Ant+Ivy at work, but needed to publish to an internal
company Maven repository.  No one in the company uses Maven - its just
that the repo servers for Maven are quite nice (we're using Nexus).
If there were a nice repo server for Ivy repos, we'd probably be using
that instead.  But, since there aren't, we're stuck with a Maven repo
manager.  Nexus is really great actually, with the one nagging
requirement that a POM be present when auto-uploading...

As Ant+Ivy doesn't have a built-in solution for publishing to Maven
repos (why would they?), we needed something that could do that for
us, short of us adopting Maven (most of the engineers in the company
don't like it either).  We found that Gradle could do this, and gave
it a shot.  Gradle handled this use case natively (without the need
for a POM), and it works great.

So, I figured it would be nice to have in JSecurity too, hence my
suggestion.  Sorry to see that I've hit a nerve, so to speak :(

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been experimenting with Gradle a bit lately as well, and I agree that
> it looks pretty interesting and has potential.  I found the error messages
> lacking and the documentation and missing concrete examples frustrating, but
> those issues are mostly about the learning curve and not the quality of the
> software.  To me, Groovy seems to me to be the right path forward in Java
> build systems - regardless of whether that ends up being Gradle, Gant or
> something yet-to-be-invented.
>
> Personally, I would prefer just about anything to Maven.
>
> Craig
>
> On Dec 26, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>> Nope, none at all - I was just bringing it up for discussion to see if
>> people wanted to give it a go.  I found it enjoyable and was thinking
>> others might as well.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>> <snip/>
>>>
>>> Is there any urgency to change the current build system ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> cordialement, regards,
>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>> www.iktek.com
>>> directory.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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