Hi Ed,

>Val, have you tried using the jsp stuff that is included in dreamweaver?

Yes, I have.

I write Web applications, though, not web sites, so I need the separation of
content and logic.  It's cleaner that way, especially if graphics people who
don't do programming work on the front end while I work on the back end.

When I first learned Web technology, I started by using strictly DWUD4.  It
was great, and it was quick, but it made a mess on the JSP itself, because
there was so much Java embedded into the HTML.  Now, I've evolved to using
JSPs that adhere to transitional XHTML standards using DW MX, and, instead
of embedding Java Scriptlets within the JSP, I only use JSP tags to access
beans.  It's a lot cleaner now, and if I need to fix something in the bean,
the front end can be left alone and vice versa.

I like DW MX and would use it if I wasn't writing Web apps.  But with so
much functionality going into it, since it is not strictly just a Web site
I'm working on, I need that separation.  I use CSS, as well, in the front
end to simplify presentation.

I've heard that struts will allow you to completely be Model 2 compliant,
thus getting a complete separation of logic and presentation (I still end up
with some scriptlets), but I've also heard it has a pretty steep learning
curve.  So, for now, I'm sticking with this.

Val

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