Hi Ed, >Val, have you tried using the jsp stuff that is included in dreamweaver?
Yes, I have. I write Web applications, though, not web sites, so I need the separation of content and logic. It's cleaner that way, especially if graphics people who don't do programming work on the front end while I work on the back end. When I first learned Web technology, I started by using strictly DWUD4. It was great, and it was quick, but it made a mess on the JSP itself, because there was so much Java embedded into the HTML. Now, I've evolved to using JSPs that adhere to transitional XHTML standards using DW MX, and, instead of embedding Java Scriptlets within the JSP, I only use JSP tags to access beans. It's a lot cleaner now, and if I need to fix something in the bean, the front end can be left alone and vice versa. I like DW MX and would use it if I wasn't writing Web apps. But with so much functionality going into it, since it is not strictly just a Web site I'm working on, I need that separation. I use CSS, as well, in the front end to simplify presentation. I've heard that struts will allow you to completely be Model 2 compliant, thus getting a complete separation of logic and presentation (I still end up with some scriptlets), but I've also heard it has a pretty steep learning curve. So, for now, I'm sticking with this. Val =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST DIGEST". Some relevant archives, FAQs and Forums on JSPs can be found at: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html http://forums.java.sun.com http://www.jspinsider.com