Yeah, I'm not a "programmer" but more of a designer making the transition. I
was using DW MX to just do simple insert, delete, update pages and it was
very easy to do it but when I deployed it on our web server whenever I
presented information from a database it would bring down our web server.
Not a good idea when you have 100 other clients with sites on that server!

We have a full time java programmer here but just looking for a quicker way
to do those database updates and stuff.

Ed.


> From: RVTobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:56:54 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Dreamweaver type application
>
> Hi Ed,
>
>> Val, have you tried using the jsp stuff that is included in dreamweaver?
>
> Yes, I have.
>
> I write Web applications, though, not web sites, so I need the separation of
> content and logic.  It's cleaner that way, especially if graphics people who
> don't do programming work on the front end while I work on the back end.
>
> When I first learned Web technology, I started by using strictly DWUD4.  It
> was great, and it was quick, but it made a mess on the JSP itself, because
> there was so much Java embedded into the HTML.  Now, I've evolved to using
> JSPs that adhere to transitional XHTML standards using DW MX, and, instead
> of embedding Java Scriptlets within the JSP, I only use JSP tags to access
> beans.  It's a lot cleaner now, and if I need to fix something in the bean,
> the front end can be left alone and vice versa.
>
> I like DW MX and would use it if I wasn't writing Web apps.  But with so
> much functionality going into it, since it is not strictly just a Web site
> I'm working on, I need that separation.  I use CSS, as well, in the front
> end to simplify presentation.
>
> I've heard that struts will allow you to completely be Model 2 compliant,
> thus getting a complete separation of logic and presentation (I still end up
> with some scriptlets), but I've also heard it has a pretty steep learning
> curve.  So, for now, I'm sticking with this.
>
> Val
>
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