Darn... I knew I should have spoke up sooner. $90K for shutting up. I would
have done it for $10K.

DOH!

I have an opinion on this topic, but don't have time to defend it so I'll
take a big dose of "shut up".

Nick,

I was up your way working on a Tapestry project (a few weeks ago).

I've been doing some Tapestry work on the side while doing
JSF/Facelets/Spring/Hibernate(iBatis too) for my regular gig. I also updated
our Tapestry course to Tapestry 4.0.

TTYL

--Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Lesiecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:27 AM
To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Net Neutrality (techno-political)

Hahahahaha!

Will it be tax free?

nick

On Jun 20, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Jon Thomas wrote:

> Nick
> When you get home there will be $90k in your freezer.  Now please  
> shut up.
> :-)
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Nick Lesiecki wrote:
>
>> The worst part is, this will be bad for business in the long run!  
>> Just imagine if every new Friendster, MySpace, delicious, or what  
>> have you had to sign over  big money to AT&T just to get their  
>> websites seen. The web has launched 1000s of new businesses, some  
>> of them wildly successful and good for everybody, including AT&T.  
>> Why does congress want to suppress the most innovative thing to  
>> happen in America in the last few decades?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Chad Woolley wrote:
>>
>>> Took me about 2 minutes to call McCain and Kyl - because I had the
>>> numbers right in the email.
>>>
>>> Never underestimate the power of big money, soulless corporate
>>> entities, and their lobbyists to spread corruption and evil.  I for
>>> one definitely don't mind getting stuff like this on the list.  We
>>> need information, cooperation and action to fight the widespread
>>> ignorance in America and make a change.
>>>
>>> -- Chad
>>>
>>> On 6/15/06, Andrew Lenards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I spoked with Senator Kyl's office and left a message for Senator
>>>> McCain.  Took all of 5 minutes to do.  I hope others are  
>>>> calling.  I'm
>>>> quite shocked this made it out of the House.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> On 6/14/06, Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Heed Tom's words, get educated, and please let your senators  
>>>> know how
>>>> > you feel! Those of us living in the bay area can usually count  
>>>> on our
>>>> > representatives to be pro-sensible-internet-policy. It would  
>>>> help if
>>>> > Arizona's senators also knew that their constituents care.
>>>> >
>>>> > Keep in mind that "ability to pay" may not be the only  
>>>> criteria that
>>>> > these big companies use when deciding who gets "advanced"  
>>>> service and
>>>> > who gets "molasses service".
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Nick
>>>> > On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Thomas Hicks wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Dear Fellow JUG members,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As technologists, we often have the luxury of avoiding  
>>>> political
>>>> > > issues.
>>>> > > Unfortunately, however, one of the founding principles of the
>>>> > > Internet,
>>>> > > Network Neutrality, is currently under seige by lawmakers. Big
>>>> > > telecomm
>>>> > > and ISP companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast are spending
>>>> > > millions to
>>>> > > lobby lawmakers to let them prioritize network traffic based  
>>>> on the
>>>> > > sender's
>>>> > > ability to pay. Possible problems and actual abuses under  
>>>> such a
>>>> > > system
>>>> > > are listed at:
>>>> > >         http://www.savetheinternet.com/=threat#abuse
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The fear that gutting Network Neutrality will pose serious  
>>>> problems
>>>> > > for
>>>> > > small, non-profit organizations (such as the Tucson JUG),  
>>>> has lead
>>>> > > a huge
>>>> > > diversity of organizations to support renewing the principle  
>>>> as law:
>>>> > >         http://www.savetheinternet.com/=coalition
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Last Thursday, the House, including our representative Jim  
>>>> Kolbe,
>>>> > > voted to kill Network Neutrality. He and a majority of  
>>>> others in
>>>> > > the house also
>>>> > > voted against the (pro-neutrality) Markey Net Neutrality
>>>> > > Amendment .  Hopes now
>>>> > > turn to the Senate where our senators:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Senator John McCain
>>>> > > Phone: 202-224-2235
>>>> > > Senator Jon Kyl
>>>> > > Phone: 202-224-4521
>>>> > >
>>>> > > will have the chance to consider this question and the  
>>>> chance to
>>>> > > protect Net Neutrality
>>>> > > by supporting the bipartisan Snowe-Dorgan Internet Freedom
>>>> > > Preservation Act (S. 2917).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Should you feel that this issue is of importance to your  
>>>> job, your
>>>> > > blog, your JUG,
>>>> > > your favorite causes, or merely your sanity, you may find these
>>>> > > additional links helpful:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > summary of the issue:
>>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq
>>>> > >
>>>> > > find out more:
>>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/
>>>> > >
>>>> > > petition your representatives:
>>>> > > http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/
>>>> > >
>>>> > >         regards,
>>>> > >         -tom hicks
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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