And the bigger guy often wins the fight. (regardless of who has the superior technology) In this case, being bigger often means having more money and revenue providing you with the ability to provide support, consulting, etc. Developers like free software (as long as they still get paid for the code they write!). But being able to provide added value and services as a result of charging for your software does provide some advantages that will make you attractive, despite getting software for free.
I am not arguing for one side or the other, just playing devils advocate in reaction to Andrew's comment. no flames please... David Jordan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Object Identity, Inc. www.objectidentity.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Juglist] rocket science > > > My financial analysts can beat up your financial analysts and my > benchmarkers can beat up your benchmarkers. > > ;-) > > On 7/17/03 4:40 PM, "Thomas L Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From a recent Merrill Lynch report on BEA: > > > >> In most companies the legions of Cobol, 4GL, VB developers, and > >> corporate developers significantly outnumber the hardcore Java > >> programming rocket scientists. > > > > (I'm holding out for "brain surgeon" :-) FWIW their analyst really > > likes WebLogic Workshop: > > > >> a tool that can drive widespread developer adoption, > becoming almost > >> like a fungus spreading throughout a company. > > > > but not JBoss: > > > >> We don't believe the hype when it comes to the potential threat of > >> commoditization by an open source J2EE product such as the JBoss > >> group. Open source is interesting but its impact on the application > >> infrastructure platform market is much smaller than most have > >> speculated. > > <snip> > >> We would agree that for some very basic development and testing > >> activities, an open source J2EE market will exist but it > will likely > >> not reach much more than mid single digit market penetration. > > <snip> > >> The JBoss group has done a tremendous job at garnering a lot of > >> attention around its "poaching" of BEA and IBM customers. > During our > >> field checks we have found many of those claims to be somewhat > >> exaggerated and the impact to be much smaller than hyped. We are > >> finding many examples where customers are migrating from JBoss to > >> BEA. The primary reason for these migrations are due to customers > >> outgrowing the JBoss capabilities and finding they need to take > >> advantage of services such as clustering, fail-over, and even the > >> portal and integration components. In many instances the > support and > >> maintainability issues are also becoming a problem. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Juglist mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org > > -- > Andrew C. Oliver > http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp > Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI > http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
