Stefan,

I really think our project should make a decision about becoming an
OSGeo incubator project at some point if we are going to ask the OSGeo
to host our wiki. I believe the issue of providing support for
non-OSGeo projects is not settled yet, and I don't know if we want to
be the project that spearheads the resolution.

So, I think we should only go with the OSGeo wiki if we want to become
an OSGeo project at some point in the near future. Otherwise, I think
we should take the offer from Dr. Dupre.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hei Landon,
>
> 2nd round. I think we should try the OSGEO way (also with rsepect to
> Ravis comment).
> So, can you find out who ois doing tech stuff @ OSGEO and ask him if we
> can get some space to setup a wiki? Not sure if they even offer
> something like a virtual machine.. if yes we may be able to admin our
> stuff on our own.
>
> If the person agrees we will make an official request to the OSGEO
> board. Otherwise, we will take our chance with Ecos Inst.
>
> Note, I would focus on that we get the things setup towards the end of
> the year, so we could start moving by beginning of the new year.
>
> stefan
>
> Stefan Steiniger schrieb:
>> Hei Landon,
>>
>> thank you. I need to think about it. After having a strong tendency to
>> host on OSGEO I discovered that the GRASS-Wiki has no easy accessible
>> backup, as far as I can assess. I also need to check which other
>> projects have wikis on there.
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>> Thanks for that advice Joe. I'll keep that in mind for any future
>>> changes to wiki hosting.
>>>
>>> Landon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Joe Desbonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Just make sure there is at least one redundant backup being made
>>>> periodically. I've seen way too many project wikis disappear due to
>>>> hardware failure, business failure or people disappearing for whatever
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>> I've been pulling a weekly ZIP backup of the current Wiki on an
>>>> automated scheduled job for the last (long) while. Make sure something
>>>> like that is possible with any new arrangement.
>>>>
>>>> Joe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> I posted a message to the main OSGeo mailing list to inquire about the
>>>>> possibility of having the OSGeo host our OpenJUMP wiki. (I made this
>>>>> inquiry at Stefan's request.) In order to have the OSGeo host our wiki
>>>>> we would have to do the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Find someone at the OSGeo with the appropriate level of access that
>>>>> was willing to do the system administration tasks needed to set-up and
>>>>> maintain the wiki. (I do not have this level of access.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Submit a motion to the System Administration Committee requesting
>>>>> the set-up of the wiki, which will need to be approved by the OSGeo
>>>>> board after a brief review period.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my modest opinion, this is a fair amount of work for something as
>>>>> simple as a wiki. However, I believe it is a worthwhile step if
>>>>> OpenJUMP plans on becoming an OSGeo project in the near future. If
>>>>> this is the case, we can apply for "incubator status", which means
>>>>> that OpenJUMP is in the process of becoming an OSGeo project.
>>>>>
>>>>> We also had an offer for wiki hosting from Dr. Dupre of the Ecos 
>>>>> Institute.
>>>>>
>>>>> In summary, here are the wiki hosting options available to us:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Go through the administrative hurdles to apply for wiki hosting by the 
>>>>> OSGeo.
>>>>> -  Apply as for "incubator" status, and seek wiki hosting from OSGeo
>>>>> as part of this process.
>>>>> - Accept the offer of Wiki hosting by Dr. Dupre from the Ecos Institute.
>>>>> - Use the wiki service offered at SourceForge.
>>>>> - Leave things as they are currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option I am willing to consider is hosting the wiki at my web
>>>>> domain or one of the web domains used by one of our other corporate
>>>>> members. We could probably set up the same wiki software Jon is using
>>>>> for us currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> The offer from Dr. Dupre is a serious one, I think. They are a NGO
>>>>> with experience in open source Linux development.
>>>>>
>>>>> Waiting for your comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>>
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