FWIW, I agree 100% with Landon's opinion on the direction to take. It would be great to see OJ becoming an OSGeo project, but unless there's the commitment to do that it doesn't seem right to ask for resources from them.
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Stefan, > > I really think our project should make a decision about becoming an > OSGeo incubator project at some point if we are going to ask the OSGeo > to host our wiki. I believe the issue of providing support for > non-OSGeo projects is not settled yet, and I don't know if we want to > be the project that spearheads the resolution. > > So, I think we should only go with the OSGeo wiki if we want to become > an OSGeo project at some point in the near future. Otherwise, I think > we should take the offer from Dr. Dupre. > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hei Landon, >> >> 2nd round. I think we should try the OSGEO way (also with rsepect to >> Ravis comment). >> So, can you find out who ois doing tech stuff @ OSGEO and ask him if we >> can get some space to setup a wiki? Not sure if they even offer >> something like a virtual machine.. if yes we may be able to admin our >> stuff on our own. >> >> If the person agrees we will make an official request to the OSGEO >> board. Otherwise, we will take our chance with Ecos Inst. >> >> Note, I would focus on that we get the things setup towards the end of >> the year, so we could start moving by beginning of the new year. >> >> stefan >> >> Stefan Steiniger schrieb: >> >>> Hei Landon, >>> >>> thank you. I need to think about it. After having a strong tendency to >>> host on OSGEO I discovered that the GRASS-Wiki has no easy accessible >>> backup, as far as I can assess. I also need to check which other >>> projects have wikis on there. >>> >>> stefan >>> >>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for that advice Joe. I'll keep that in mind for any future >>>> changes to wiki hosting. >>>> >>>> Landon >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Joe Desbonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just make sure there is at least one redundant backup being made >>>>> periodically. I've seen way too many project wikis disappear due to >>>>> hardware failure, business failure or people disappearing for whatever >>>>> reason. >>>>> >>>>> I've been pulling a weekly ZIP backup of the current Wiki on an >>>>> automated scheduled job for the last (long) while. Make sure something >>>>> like that is possible with any new arrangement. >>>>> >>>>> Joe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Sunburned Surveyor >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I posted a message to the main OSGeo mailing list to inquire about the >>>>>> possibility of having the OSGeo host our OpenJUMP wiki. (I made this >>>>>> inquiry at Stefan's request.) In order to have the OSGeo host our wiki >>>>>> we would have to do the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Find someone at the OSGeo with the appropriate level of access that >>>>>> was willing to do the system administration tasks needed to set-up and >>>>>> maintain the wiki. (I do not have this level of access.) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Submit a motion to the System Administration Committee requesting >>>>>> the set-up of the wiki, which will need to be approved by the OSGeo >>>>>> board after a brief review period. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my modest opinion, this is a fair amount of work for something as >>>>>> simple as a wiki. However, I believe it is a worthwhile step if >>>>>> OpenJUMP plans on becoming an OSGeo project in the near future. If >>>>>> this is the case, we can apply for "incubator status", which means >>>>>> that OpenJUMP is in the process of becoming an OSGeo project. >>>>>> >>>>>> We also had an offer for wiki hosting from Dr. Dupre of the Ecos >>>>>> Institute. >>>>>> >>>>>> In summary, here are the wiki hosting options available to us: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Go through the administrative hurdles to apply for wiki hosting by the >>>>>> OSGeo. >>>>>> - Apply as for "incubator" status, and seek wiki hosting from OSGeo >>>>>> as part of this process. >>>>>> - Accept the offer of Wiki hosting by Dr. Dupre from the Ecos Institute. >>>>>> - Use the wiki service offered at SourceForge. >>>>>> - Leave things as they are currently. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another option I am willing to consider is hosting the wiki at my web >>>>>> domain or one of the web domains used by one of our other corporate >>>>>> members. We could probably set up the same wiki software Jon is using >>>>>> for us currently. >>>>>> >>>>>> The offer from Dr. Dupre is a serious one, I think. They are a NGO >>>>>> with experience in open source Linux development. >>>>>> >>>>>> Waiting for your comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Sunburned Surveyor >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Martin Davis Senior Technical Architect Refractions Research, Inc. 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