Hi

As you say it's all getting a bit circular really.

Some aspects of the form of english spoken in the U.S. are in fact a purer form 
than modern British english, for example the use of "fall" to denote the season 
following summer - we adopted a french word, autumn,  sometime in the 
nineteenthth century.

Now as to the term english - strictly speaking english was last used in the 
eleventh century as the Norman french usurped the anglo saxon as the official 
written form and became an integral part of our speech as well, saxon english 
survived but mainly amongst the lower classes, this is illustrated by the words 
we use to describe the foods we eat and the animals they come from - thus pork 
from the french but pig from the saxon, beef from the french and cow from the 
saxon and most tellingly venison from the french and deer from the saxon.   
This demonstrates the dual nature of our language.  Equally other cultures 
encountered by the British have contributed to our  vocabulary, sofa, tea, 
khaki and many more are imports some still in the native state some  we adapted 
like tea from the chinese and indian chi which in the east has a different 
tonal quality.

So what is this "english" we are arguing about?

G

>From Bridgerule in glorious England.
On 3 Sep 2011, at 09:28, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hello Mary(o)
> 
> On 2 Sep 2011, at 18:35, Mary Stores wrote:
> 
> I think I might as well speak Spanish, as comprehendable as that statement 
> was ... not! lol
> 
> Yes, that's correct.  Well, it was just meant to make the point that this is 
> my language to wreck, not yours 'cause you're an American and, thus, a 
> "Usurper". :)
> 
> This debate does go in circles, doesn't it?
> 
> it does, doesn't it.  Nevertheless, argue as much as you like, the facts 
> remain the facts, that American, so-called "International English" is a total 
> contradiction in terms. "International" and "English", I mean.  If you insist 
> on usurping a language, why couldn't you make it some obscure language such 
> as Klingon, Volcan or something which, when all said and done, really were 
> American inventions?  Then, of course, nobody could ever have any problems no 
> matter how many butcherings were done to the native spellings or grammatical 
> interpretations or colloquialisms.  Then, you as a nation could really hold 
> up your collective heads and claim to have your own native language as we do, 
> the French do, the Germans do and so many other nations do.  They didn't just 
> jump on the backs of other nationalities. ;-)
> 

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