Guess I'll need to soldier on, for now. I've found imap very messy on the clients I've tried and on dealing with the different classes of folder, found chrome browser is the only foolproof method of getting things 100% right. All very tiresome.
Coming from a long history of POP accounts managed on Outlook, I've got a very simple and robust system, that's foolproof at the desk-top and mostly spot-on on the move. If only I didn't have to forward inadvertently deleted emails to myself from k9's trash folder :) Cheers, Paul On Saturday, 23 January 2016 16:00:24 UTC, Richard wrote: > > I do not believe that there is any facility in the POP protocol to > "re-sync back to the POP server". It's a "store and retrieve [and > delete]" (initially "retrieve only once") protocol. > > Once a mail client tries to include "special capabilities" that > aren't standards-compliant things can easily go off the rails. > Something that may work with one server configuration may not work > with the next, etc. Not a direction one needing to support the > software ever wants to go in. > > A good (standards-compliant) IMAP client is very flexible and will > let you manage your mail most any way you want. The ability to move > messages between (server-side) folders from a client makes it so > that you can have things show up where you want them *in any > client/in your mail-viewing environment of the moment*. I.e., your > mail view is consistent regardless of what you are using. Not > something you can do in POP. > > I have never found the mail client-centric approach to mail that is > POP very useful in a multi-environment world. > > POP may work well for you, but it's not a very robust protocol and > the specification isn't likely to advance very fast. > > > > > > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2016 13:46:17 +0000 > > From: Paul Hudson <[email protected] <javascript:>> > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > Yes, it's in regard to a POP account. Just checked in my gmail > > imap account in k9 and Trash does have the facility to move and > > copy (if synced with server). > > > > I could do with this facility in my POP accounts and I can't > > imagine it couldn't be supported provided a sync hadn't been > > enacted since the initial delete. Also, if a file replaced into > > the inbox after further server syncs couldn't be re-synced back to > > the POP server, then perhaps an export facility from files in > > Trash into .msg or .eml file format would be another useful work > > around. It would certainly be preferable to forwarding in my > > circumstances, where sorting wheat from lots of chaff through the > > day results in some inevitable mistaken deletes. > > > > I get IMAP has some advantages over POP, but for the most part, > > and in particular for sorting large volumes of often "not quite > > spam, but almost" business email, I find POP a far more efficient > > management and client-side archiving protocol than IMAP. > > > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > > > On 23 January 2016 at 12:53, Richard > > <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > >> Is there a difference in how POP handles this? > >> > >> With IMAP there isn't an issue, but my sense with POP (which I > >> don't use) is that moving things into the inbox isn't a supported > >> concept (at the protocol level). The OP doesn't explicitly > >> indicate which he is using. > >> > >> > >> > >> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2016 07:36:26 -0500 > >> > From: Seth H Holmes <[email protected] <javascript:>> > >> > > >> > I move email out of the trash and back to other folders with > >> > ease. You just got to the trash folder, find the message, and > >> > move it. > >> > > >> > You may want to consider archiving mail after reading it, if you > >> > have a habit of deleting too much. Then go through your archive > >> > from time to time and delete stuff. > >> > > >> > On January 23, 2016 6:28:09 AM EST, Paul Hudson > >> > <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I've been using k9 for some years now and am very pleased with > >> >> it. For about as long as I have been however, I've known once > >> >> messages are deleted, they can't be retrieved or 'undeleted' > >> >> from the Trash folder, back into the Inbox. I'd always hoped > >> >> this would be addressed in an update, but as yet, not so far. > >> >> Having recently changed jobs I now require email on the move > >> >> more than ever and the volumes I'm processing are much higher. > >> >> This means I'm finding the ability to quickly undelete > >> >> inadvertently deleted emails a problem. Forwarding these > >> >> messages to myself is proving an ugly, time consuming work > >> >> around and this also causes indexing problems if that message > >> >> requires archiving in my desktop mail client. > >> >> > >> >> I suppose this also ultimately begs the question, what is the > >> >> point of a trash folder, if you can't get messages back > >> >> quickly & originally intact, if required? > >> >> > >> >> Very much hope this might be easy to incorporate and others > >> >> among the development community agree it is a worthwhile > >> >> enhancement to this otherwise great app. After so long a happy > >> >> user, I'd hate to have to explore other options if I can > >> >> possibly avoid it. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> > >> >> Paul Hudson > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the K-9 > >> >> Mail Users List. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:> > >> >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] <javascript:> > >> >> To report an issue with K-9 Mail, visit > >> >> http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/list > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/k-9-mail > >> >> > >> >> --- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> >> Google Groups "K-9 Mail" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > >> >> it, send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Seth H Holmes > >> > Sent from my Nexus 7 with K-9 Mail. 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