Hi J, This is a blast from from the past... :))
I long since gave up asking to have deleted message retrieval built into K9. If I'm still stupid enough to inadvertently delete a mail I should've kept (only very rarely nowadays ;) I just forward it from the trash to another of my email addresses and thereby recover it. Still happily using POP for my main email needs and still 99% happily using K9... :) Cheers, Paul On 2 June 2017 11:19:16 BST, [email protected] wrote: >Thank you all for your input. > >In my case, some of the providers I use don't even offer a mail >retrieving >option, they only offer POP syncing. >But even with mail servers using the IMAProtocol I haven't been able to > >retrieve messages from Folder Deleted to the Inbox in K9 like Seth >seems to >suggest in his first reaction. > >I concur with you, Paul, that I shouldn't be forced to move around >mails on >my server(s), I'd prefer to have it fixed in K9. I've used K9 since a >few >months now and I'm very satisfied. However, today I accidentally moved >a >message from my inbox folder to my Deleted Folder and there's no way I >can >get it out of there (or just undo this action) with help of K9. > >If there's anyway I could post this on the want list for the K9 >developers >I'd be interested > >J > >Op woensdag 27 januari 2016 12:23:14 UTC+1 schreef Paul Hudson: >> >> Thanks for the reply, Seth. >> >> If you read my posts again, you'll see it reads that my own >circumstances >> dictate I really don't need or wish to switch to IMAP. >> >> You'll also see that I do use IMAP for my gmail (which I've used for >many >> years and quite regularly *QED*) and I detest the idiosyncratic way >in >> which different clients interact with and control the server-side. >> Essentially, control over the server-side is an illusion. I also >detest >> that tidying folders to my satisfaction (which I gave up doing long >ago) >> seems ok for a while, until something goes awry at the server and >stuff >> migrates into various folders I didn't designate and before long, >Inboxes >> inevitably fill with old emails. It's cluttered, frustrating and >avoidable >> to those who might need to keep emails for a while before deciding to > >> delete or archive. >> >> Anyway, whoops... I don't wish to turn this into a "Quartz Watch v >> Mechanical Watch" type argument. >> >> Sure, IMAP has advantages (and I do see them in various instances). >But... >> just believe me when I say, my situation requires simple, secure and >> unambiguous control of contemporary and archived email (including >control >> of individual message files) at the client-side. POP gives me that >and IMAP >> certainly doesn't. >> >> In summary: >> >> *EVERYTHING* "I" want to do (including manipulation of local folders >(in >> clients that allow)) is available with POP. :) >> >> Regards, >> Paul >> >> On 27 January 2016 at 02:17, Seth Holmes <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> On 1/23/16 12:03 PM, Paul Hudson wrote: >>> >>>> Just to add, for clarity, that means to say it deletes server-side >what >>>> has >>>> been deleted from the inbox in k9 (hence the issue I have). Items >left >>>> in the >>>> inbox in k9 remain on the server until I sync back at the office... >:) >>>> >>> >>> Everything you've described screams "switch to IMAP". >>> >>> There is no syncing with a POP server. You can delete upon >retrieval, or >>> you can leave it on the server, all of which can get very messy when > >>> introducing a new POP3 client. >>> >>> Most desktop POP3 clients allow you to move e-mail from the Trash >back to >>> the INBOX. I don't know if K-9 does because I don't use POP3. But >what >>> you're doing at that point is working with local folders on the >client, you >>> are no longer interacting with the server. >>> >>> For IMAP, you can do everything you want and more. E-mail read on >one >>> client syncs with the server and thus all clients (if properly >configured). >>> You don't have to mess with the various folders classes, set >everything the >>> same and be done with it. When you get back to your desktop client, >you can >>> easily archive e-mail to a local or server side folder. Deletions >sync and >>> you can even sync the trash, setting to only empty the trash from >the >>> desktop client (which is what I do). K-9 also has an Archive folder. >>> >>> However, K-9 does not support creating folders or local folders. >It's >>> designed to be both robust and portable and too many knobs can be to >its >>> detriment. >>> >>> I honestly don't know why anyone bothers with POP3 when IMAP is >>> available, and understand less why people stick with a service that >only >>> offers POP3. >>> >>> *EVERYTHING* you want to do (with the exception of local folders) is > >>> available with IMAP. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Seth H Holmes >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the K-9 Mail > >>> Users List. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> <javascript:> >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] <javascript:> >>> To report an issue with K-9 Mail, visit >>> http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/list >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/k-9-mail >>> >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic >in >>> the Google Groups "K-9 Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/k-9-mail/Ip08a6HxhGo/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >Google Groups "K-9 Mail" group. >To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >https://groups.google.com/d/topic/k-9-mail/Ip08a6HxhGo/unsubscribe. >To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sent via Android... please excuse the brevity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "K-9 Mail" group. 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