Thank you all for your input.

In my case, some of the providers I use don't even offer a mail retrieving 
option, they only offer POP syncing.
But even with mail servers using the IMAProtocol I haven't been able to 
retrieve messages from Folder Deleted to the Inbox in K9 like Seth seems to 
suggest in his first reaction.

I concur with you, Paul, that I shouldn't be forced to move around mails on 
my server(s), I'd prefer to have it fixed in K9. I've used K9 since a few 
months now and I'm very satisfied. However, today I accidentally moved a 
message from my inbox folder to my Deleted Folder and there's no way I can 
get it out of there (or just undo this action) with help of K9.

If there's anyway I could post this on the want list for the K9 developers 
I'd be interested

J

Op woensdag 27 januari 2016 12:23:14 UTC+1 schreef Paul Hudson:
>
> Thanks for the reply, Seth.
>
> If you read my posts again, you'll see it reads that my own circumstances 
> dictate I really don't need or wish to switch to IMAP.
>
> You'll also see that I do use IMAP for my gmail (which I've used for many 
> years and quite regularly *QED*) and I detest the idiosyncratic way in 
> which different clients interact with and control the server-side. 
> Essentially, control over the server-side is an illusion. I also detest 
> that tidying folders to my satisfaction (which I gave up doing long ago) 
> seems ok for a while, until something goes awry at the server and stuff 
> migrates into various folders I didn't designate and before long, Inboxes 
> inevitably fill with old emails. It's cluttered, frustrating and avoidable 
> to those who might need to keep emails for a while before deciding to 
> delete or archive.
>
> Anyway, whoops... I don't wish to turn this into a "Quartz Watch v 
> Mechanical Watch" type argument.
>
> Sure, IMAP has advantages (and I do see them in various instances). But... 
> just believe me when I say, my situation requires simple, secure and 
> unambiguous control of contemporary and archived email (including control 
> of individual message files) at the client-side. POP gives me that and IMAP 
> certainly doesn't.
>
> In summary:
>
> *EVERYTHING* "I" want to do (including manipulation of local folders (in 
> clients that allow)) is available with POP.  :)
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> On 27 January 2016 at 02:17, Seth Holmes <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/16 12:03 PM, Paul Hudson wrote:
>>
>>> Just to add, for clarity, that means to say it deletes server-side what 
>>> has
>>> been deleted from the inbox in k9 (hence the issue I have). Items left 
>>> in the
>>> inbox in k9 remain on the server until I sync back at the office... :)
>>>
>>
>> Everything you've described screams "switch to IMAP".
>>
>> There is no syncing with a POP server. You can delete upon retrieval, or 
>> you can leave it on the server, all of which can get very messy when 
>> introducing a new POP3 client.
>>
>> Most desktop POP3 clients allow you to move e-mail from the Trash back to 
>> the INBOX. I don't know if K-9 does because I don't use POP3. But what 
>> you're doing at that point is working with local folders on the client, you 
>> are no longer interacting with the server.
>>
>> For IMAP, you can do everything you want and more. E-mail read on one 
>> client syncs with the server and thus all clients (if properly configured). 
>> You don't have to mess with the various folders classes, set everything the 
>> same and be done with it. When you get back to your desktop client, you can 
>> easily archive e-mail to a local or server side folder. Deletions sync and 
>> you can even sync the trash, setting to only empty the trash from the 
>> desktop client (which is what I do). K-9 also has an Archive folder.
>>
>> However, K-9 does not support creating folders or local folders. It's 
>> designed to be both robust and portable and too many knobs can be to its 
>> detriment.
>>
>> I honestly don't know why anyone bothers with POP3 when IMAP is 
>> available, and understand less why people stick with a service that only 
>> offers POP3.
>>
>> *EVERYTHING* you want to do (with the exception of local folders) is 
>> available with IMAP.
>>
>>
>>
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