Hi Ingo,
Le 2020-07-27 à 03:58, Ingo Klöcker a écrit :
On Sonntag, 26. Juli 2020 18:31:08 CEST Philippe Cloutier wrote:
An even bigger question, I'm afraid. When nobody steps up, what would we
do? I wouldn't mind "moderating" this list today, for instance, since I
found the time to read it. But I for one would not *commit* myself to
moderate it or any other; I just don't have the required availability
and if I had, I wouldn't guarantee I would remain available.
I'm sorry, but I have the feeling that you are making too much of a fuss about
this. Maybe you are misunderstanding what "moderating" entails. Or maybe I
misunderstood for years what moderation of a mailing list entails.
I am owner of one mailing list and moderator of another. Moderation of the
second mailing list is restricted to the moderation of posts that are held for
moderation mostly because those post come from unsubscribed senders (99 % of
this is SPAM). I'm not even subscribed to the second mailing list. I don't see
moderation of legit posts (i.e. posts that are not held for moderation) as my
task. This kind of moderation costs almost no time.
I have never been subscribed to more than 1 kde.org mailing list, so I
am not knowledgeable about the situation of KDE's mailing lists. My
advice was general, and for sure, if by "moderating" we mean "filtering
spam", the situation is different, but I think a decentralized approach
will help either way, adapting to any situation.
The policy does not refer to moderation, but to "active owners". If the
problem is unclear, clarifying what an "active owner" is could help.
In any case, it's not moderating a single mail which is a problem. The
problem comes with volume. If moderating all mailing lists would cost
almost no time and if we considered moderating as simply filtering spam,
the policy's proponent could simply volunteer for all mailing lists and
convince pretty much any 1 or 2 extra contributors to do the same to
achieve the same benefits.
If some moderators feel that a single reply constitutes "much of a
fuss", I am afraid that sending all moderators regular mails requiring
each of them to take action each time would be perceived as way too much
of a fuss.
If the issue really comes down to a lack of moderators or contributors
not being aware that the number of moderators is insufficient, then
simply editing https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Mailing-Lists
encouraging subscribers to volunteer (and hopefully telling them how to
do so) would surely already make quite a difference.
Regards,
Ingo
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Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com
