On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Gustavo Silva < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everyone, > Hello Gustavo, > > Nice to meet you and see a couple of you guys I already know :-) > Welcome and we are glad to have you here! > > Well, here's my 2 cents: > If you wish to take this project forward, everything should be done > properly from the start. I strongly disagree and don't advise anyone to > start one business that requires a huge load of trust - such as business > consultancy - and then change things all the sudden. If it is possible, > let's do it right from the start. Name issues may not be important. In the > end we can get a new name. It's unfortunate though, since Kibo was a good > name - You would have the same pronunciation wherever you are. But I am > sure we can come up with something else. > > I believe these projects should have dedicated things to itself. If you > wish to take Kibo (or whatever it is going to be called in the future) > forward, then having its own website and communication channels is key. > Here's my personal opinion, though controversial - Most of Linux/Ubuntu > projects fail since everybody take their webpage format and schematics, > making it all look the same. Outsiders that don't know what is all this get > confused and scared since it doesn't inspire that much trust (here's the > controversial thought). > > If all of you agree to use Ali's website and/or doing what Ali proposed, I > am fine with that. But, once again, I don't agree and I don't find that > good for business. > > I highly appreciate your feedback but allow me to be super extra clear here. I have a feeling that you misunderstood my email or maybe something is missing. Allow me to re-explain in short words: While the current www.amjjawad.net is 100% pure personal website, if we all agree (or majority) to use it for this project (AKA Kibo), it will be 100% different and will NO longer be personal website. It will be changed and all the info that you can see at the moment will go away and new info will be shown. I explained why I suggested that so not going to repeat myself here. www.amjjawad.net will be the host of the project and has all what we need at this stage. http://amjjawad.net/kibo/ << is nothing but temporary page. I put the introduction to Kibo on a Google Drive Document. I decided to put that on my website. If we will go for www.amjjawad.net to host all about Kibo then the whole website will look different :) Are we good to go or still there are some doubts? > Best, > Gustavo > > 2014-11-26 11:33 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>: > >> Hi, >> >> Could you please read MY email and NOT only Phill's email?! >> >> +1 and I agree is not enough. We need to move forward. I have been >> jobless for so long and I am not ready to sit and wait :) >> While you might not be affected with the time factor, I do need each and >> every second of time time. I have a lot to do. If each step will take ages, >> I don't think this project nor any other project will be successful. >> >> Time is a very important factor to me. I don't know about you but to me, >> it is very important. >> >> Kindly read my email and get back to me. >> >> Thank you! >> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just to keep everyone in the loop, please read: >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Missed check up Date: Wed, >>> 26 Nov 2014 03:21:52 +0000 From: Phill Whiteside <[email protected]> >>> <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Ali Linx >>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm the proud owner of kibo.computer This was bought in all honesty >>> not knowing of your more convoluted name. >>> >>> Having been on the receiving end of cyber squatters, I'd be happy to >>> hand it over to you at cost price (I think ~ 20USD) and the new team can go >>> choose a name that does not confuse you with them. >>> >>> The team is a bunch of F/OSS people (some quite qualified) who'd like >>> to earn a bit of money on spare time. >>> >>> It's really odd how these things happen, you offer DB, Ali is >>> aoffereng a more complete service. I've cc'd him. You two should really >>> have a chat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Phill. >>> >>> -- >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>> >>> >>> http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ >>> >>> Yes. We were so excited. We didn't check. You can totally blame me for >>> this one. >>> >>> Now, what are the options we have before we make the official launch of >>> the project? >>> >>> 1. Wait until we get a reply from http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ >>> 2. No need to wait and try to come up with another name. >>> 3. Why? we could use www.amjjawad.net - who cares what is the name >>> of the website that is offering a service? I mean, a client will click >>> on a >>> link, find the service, pay, etc. >>> >>> Yes, the project is mine. No, I can't or don't want to be a dictator. >>> There was a valid reason why I asked you all to join because I do believe >>> in the power of WE instead of the weak I that can't do much without WE. >>> >>> >>> If I have to share my opinion before anyone else, I'd recommend to go >>> for www.amjjawad.net for now for these main reasons: >>> >>> 1. Kibo is the name of the project. It does not matter whether its >>> website hold the same name or different one. >>> 2. http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ might start a legal battle (or >>> may not) against us and we can't go that route neither now nor any other >>> time. Neither we have money for a legal stuff nor time. >>> 3. www.amjjawad.net is up and running already, we just need to >>> update the website and convert it from pure personal website to a website >>> for Kibo Services and Products (Kibo Project). >>> 4. Kibo now is a baby. Kibo is just a project (business/profit) at >>> this stage; I call it Phase 1. Once we can move safely to Phase 2, we can >>> worry about other stuff like name, etc. IMHO, once we are on Phase 2 >>> where >>> Kibo will migrate from a project to a company, we might need different >>> setup anyway. So, why to waste our time and think about names, etc? >>> >>> >>> So, what do you think?! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> Best Regards, >>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - >>> Ubuntu >>> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> Best Regards, >> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - >> Ubuntu >> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos, > Gustavo > > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." 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