I think using amjjawad.net for now is our best bet, while we continue to
work on the project and move forward. Names can be changed in the future -
for now the important part is to get started.

Emily

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gustavo Silva <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hum, right, sorry.
>
> That might work even though it is not the best solution ever, but
> apparently it's the faster/best for now. But yeah, I got it now. We can set
> everything in place when we get to phase 2 :)
>
> 2014-11-26 12:57 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Gustavo Silva <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ali.
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, misunderstood the previous e-mail then. I thought you wanted to
>>> keep amjjawad hostname. That said, yes, it's a go go for me :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> No. You still didn't see my point :(
>>
>> I do want to keep the name of the website as it is: www.amjjawad.net as
>> I can't changed that, it is a registered domain and it is working :)
>>
>> I do want to change the whole website. All the current contents will go.
>> New contents will be there.
>>
>> Instead of registering new domain, waste our time to pick a name, etc etc
>> (with ToriOS, we had wasted 3 days to pick a name for the project) - which
>> I explained earlier - we could use the current domain which is:
>> amjjawad.net
>>
>> Same domain (amjjawad.net) different website and contents.
>>
>> Hope it is clear now :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2014-11-26 12:45 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Gustavo Silva <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to meet you and see a couple of you guys I already know :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Welcome and we are glad to have you here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, here's my 2 cents:
>>>>> If you wish to take this project forward, everything should be done
>>>>> properly from the start. I strongly disagree and don't advise anyone to
>>>>> start one business that requires a huge load of trust - such as business
>>>>> consultancy - and then change things all the sudden. If it is possible,
>>>>> let's do it right from the start. Name issues may not be important. In the
>>>>> end we can get a new name. It's unfortunate though, since Kibo was a good
>>>>> name - You would have the same pronunciation wherever you are. But I am
>>>>> sure we can come up with something else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe these projects should have dedicated things to itself. If
>>>>> you wish to take Kibo (or whatever it is going to be called in the future)
>>>>> forward, then having its own website and communication channels is key.
>>>>> Here's my personal opinion, though controversial - Most of Linux/Ubuntu
>>>>> projects fail since everybody take their webpage format and schematics,
>>>>> making it all look the same. Outsiders that don't know what is all this 
>>>>> get
>>>>> confused and scared since it doesn't inspire that much trust (here's the
>>>>> controversial thought).
>>>>>
>>>>> If all of you agree to use Ali's website and/or doing what Ali
>>>>> proposed, I am fine with that. But, once again, I don't agree and I don't
>>>>> find that good for business.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I highly appreciate your feedback but allow me to be super extra clear
>>>> here. I have a feeling that you misunderstood my email or maybe something
>>>> is missing. Allow me to re-explain in short words:
>>>>
>>>> While the current www.amjjawad.net is 100% pure personal website, if
>>>> we all agree (or majority) to use it for this project (AKA Kibo), it will
>>>> be 100% different and will NO longer be personal website. It will be
>>>> changed and all the info that you can see at the moment will go away and
>>>> new info will be shown.
>>>>
>>>> I explained why I suggested that so not going to repeat myself here.
>>>>
>>>> www.amjjawad.net will be the host of the project and has all what we
>>>> need at this stage.
>>>>
>>>> http://amjjawad.net/kibo/ << is nothing but temporary page.
>>>> I put the introduction to Kibo on a Google Drive Document. I decided to
>>>> put that on my website.
>>>>
>>>> If we will go for www.amjjawad.net to host all about Kibo then the
>>>> whole website will look different :)
>>>>
>>>> Are we good to go or still there are some doubts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-11-26 11:33 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please read MY email and NOT only Phill's email?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 and I agree is not enough. We need to move forward. I have been
>>>>>> jobless for so long and I am not ready to sit and wait :)
>>>>>> While you might not be affected with the time factor, I do need each
>>>>>> and every second of time time. I have a lot to do. If each step will take
>>>>>> ages, I don't think this project nor any other project will be 
>>>>>> successful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time is a very important factor to me. I don't know about you but to
>>>>>> me, it is very important.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kindly read my email and get back to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to keep everyone in the loop, please read:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------  Subject: Missed check up  Date:
>>>>>>> Wed, 26 Nov 2014 03:21:52 +0000  From: Phill Whiteside
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>  To:
>>>>>>> [email protected], Ali Linx <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm the proud owner of kibo.computer This was bought in all
>>>>>>> honesty not knowing of your more convoluted name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Having been on the receiving end of cyber squatters, I'd be happy
>>>>>>> to hand it over to you at cost price (I think ~ 20USD) and the new team 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> go choose a name that does not confuse you with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The team is a bunch of F/OSS people (some quite qualified) who'd
>>>>>>> like to earn a bit of money on spare time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It's really odd how these things happen, you offer DB, Ali is
>>>>>>> aoffereng a more complete service. I've cc'd him. You two should really
>>>>>>> have a chat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Phill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. We were so excited. We didn't check. You can totally blame me
>>>>>>> for this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, what are the options we have before we make the official launch
>>>>>>> of the project?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Wait until we get a reply from http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>>>    2. No need to wait and try to come up with another name.
>>>>>>>    3. Why? we could use www.amjjawad.net - who cares what is the
>>>>>>>    name of the website that is offering a service? I mean, a client 
>>>>>>> will click
>>>>>>>    on a link, find the service, pay, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, the project is mine. No, I can't or don't want to be a
>>>>>>> dictator. There was a valid reason why I asked you all to join because 
>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>> believe in the power of WE instead of the weak I that can't do much 
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> WE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I have to share my opinion before anyone else, I'd recommend to
>>>>>>> go for www.amjjawad.net for now for these main reasons:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Kibo is the name of the project. It does not matter whether
>>>>>>>    its website hold the same name or different one.
>>>>>>>    2. http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ might start a legal battle
>>>>>>>    (or may not) against us and we can't go that route neither now nor 
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>    other time. Neither we have money for a legal stuff nor time.
>>>>>>>    3. www.amjjawad.net is up and running already, we just need to
>>>>>>>    update the website and convert it from pure personal website to a 
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>    for Kibo Services and Products (Kibo Project).
>>>>>>>    4. Kibo now is a baby. Kibo is just a project (business/profit)
>>>>>>>    at this stage; I call it Phase 1. Once we can move safely to Phase 
>>>>>>> 2, we
>>>>>>>    can worry about other stuff like name, etc. IMHO, once we are on 
>>>>>>> Phase 2
>>>>>>>    where Kibo will migrate from a project to a company, we might need
>>>>>>>    different setup anyway. So, why to waste our time and think about 
>>>>>>> names,
>>>>>>>    etc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, what do you think?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu
>>>>>>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - Ubuntu GNOME
>>>>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - 
>> Ubuntu
>> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Gustavo
>
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