Hum, right, sorry.

That might work even though it is not the best solution ever, but
apparently it's the faster/best for now. But yeah, I got it now. We can set
everything in place when we get to phase 2 :)

2014-11-26 12:57 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:

>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Gustavo Silva <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ali.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>>
>> Sorry, misunderstood the previous e-mail then. I thought you wanted to
>> keep amjjawad hostname. That said, yes, it's a go go for me :-)
>>
>
>
> No. You still didn't see my point :(
>
> I do want to keep the name of the website as it is: www.amjjawad.net as I
> can't changed that, it is a registered domain and it is working :)
>
> I do want to change the whole website. All the current contents will go.
> New contents will be there.
>
> Instead of registering new domain, waste our time to pick a name, etc etc
> (with ToriOS, we had wasted 3 days to pick a name for the project) - which
> I explained earlier - we could use the current domain which is:
> amjjawad.net
>
> Same domain (amjjawad.net) different website and contents.
>
> Hope it is clear now :)
>
>
>>
>> 2014-11-26 12:45 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Gustavo Silva <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice to meet you and see a couple of you guys I already know :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome and we are glad to have you here!
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, here's my 2 cents:
>>>> If you wish to take this project forward, everything should be done
>>>> properly from the start. I strongly disagree and don't advise anyone to
>>>> start one business that requires a huge load of trust - such as business
>>>> consultancy - and then change things all the sudden. If it is possible,
>>>> let's do it right from the start. Name issues may not be important. In the
>>>> end we can get a new name. It's unfortunate though, since Kibo was a good
>>>> name - You would have the same pronunciation wherever you are. But I am
>>>> sure we can come up with something else.
>>>>
>>>> I believe these projects should have dedicated things to itself. If you
>>>> wish to take Kibo (or whatever it is going to be called in the future)
>>>> forward, then having its own website and communication channels is key.
>>>> Here's my personal opinion, though controversial - Most of Linux/Ubuntu
>>>> projects fail since everybody take their webpage format and schematics,
>>>> making it all look the same. Outsiders that don't know what is all this get
>>>> confused and scared since it doesn't inspire that much trust (here's the
>>>> controversial thought).
>>>>
>>>> If all of you agree to use Ali's website and/or doing what Ali
>>>> proposed, I am fine with that. But, once again, I don't agree and I don't
>>>> find that good for business.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I highly appreciate your feedback but allow me to be super extra clear
>>> here. I have a feeling that you misunderstood my email or maybe something
>>> is missing. Allow me to re-explain in short words:
>>>
>>> While the current www.amjjawad.net is 100% pure personal website, if we
>>> all agree (or majority) to use it for this project (AKA Kibo), it will be
>>> 100% different and will NO longer be personal website. It will be changed
>>> and all the info that you can see at the moment will go away and new info
>>> will be shown.
>>>
>>> I explained why I suggested that so not going to repeat myself here.
>>>
>>> www.amjjawad.net will be the host of the project and has all what we
>>> need at this stage.
>>>
>>> http://amjjawad.net/kibo/ << is nothing but temporary page.
>>> I put the introduction to Kibo on a Google Drive Document. I decided to
>>> put that on my website.
>>>
>>> If we will go for www.amjjawad.net to host all about Kibo then the
>>> whole website will look different :)
>>>
>>> Are we good to go or still there are some doubts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
>>>> 2014-11-26 11:33 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please read MY email and NOT only Phill's email?!
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 and I agree is not enough. We need to move forward. I have been
>>>>> jobless for so long and I am not ready to sit and wait :)
>>>>> While you might not be affected with the time factor, I do need each
>>>>> and every second of time time. I have a lot to do. If each step will take
>>>>> ages, I don't think this project nor any other project will be successful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time is a very important factor to me. I don't know about you but to
>>>>> me, it is very important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly read my email and get back to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to keep everyone in the loop, please read:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------  Subject: Missed check up  Date: Wed,
>>>>>> 26 Nov 2014 03:21:52 +0000  From: Phill Whiteside <[email protected]>
>>>>>> <[email protected]>  To: [email protected], Ali Linx
>>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'm the proud owner of kibo.computer This was bought in all honesty
>>>>>> not knowing of your more convoluted name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Having been on the receiving end of cyber squatters, I'd be happy
>>>>>> to hand it over to you at cost price (I think ~ 20USD) and the new team 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> go choose a name that does not confuse you with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The team is a bunch of F/OSS people (some quite qualified) who'd
>>>>>> like to earn a bit of money on spare time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It's really odd how these things happen, you offer DB, Ali is
>>>>>> aoffereng a more complete service. I've cc'd him. You two should really
>>>>>> have a chat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Phill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We were so excited. We didn't check. You can totally blame me
>>>>>> for this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, what are the options we have before we make the official launch
>>>>>> of the project?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Wait until we get a reply from http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>>    2. No need to wait and try to come up with another name.
>>>>>>    3. Why? we could use www.amjjawad.net - who cares what is the
>>>>>>    name of the website that is offering a service? I mean, a client will 
>>>>>> click
>>>>>>    on a link, find the service, pay, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the project is mine. No, I can't or don't want to be a dictator.
>>>>>> There was a valid reason why I asked you all to join because I do believe
>>>>>> in the power of WE instead of the weak I that can't do much without WE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I have to share my opinion before anyone else, I'd recommend to go
>>>>>> for www.amjjawad.net for now for these main reasons:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Kibo is the name of the project. It does not matter whether
>>>>>>    its website hold the same name or different one.
>>>>>>    2. http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ might start a legal battle (or
>>>>>>    may not) against us and we can't go that route neither now nor any 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>    time. Neither we have money for a legal stuff nor time.
>>>>>>    3. www.amjjawad.net is up and running already, we just need to
>>>>>>    update the website and convert it from pure personal website to a 
>>>>>> website
>>>>>>    for Kibo Services and Products (Kibo Project).
>>>>>>    4. Kibo now is a baby. Kibo is just a project (business/profit)
>>>>>>    at this stage; I call it Phase 1. Once we can move safely to Phase 2, 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>    can worry about other stuff like name, etc. IMHO, once we are on 
>>>>>> Phase 2
>>>>>>    where Kibo will migrate from a project to a company, we might need
>>>>>>    different setup anyway. So, why to waste our time and think about 
>>>>>> names,
>>>>>>    etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what do you think?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - 
>>> Ubuntu
>>> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>> Gustavo
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - Ubuntu
> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>



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