On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Gustavo Silva <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ali.
>

Hi,


>
> Sorry, misunderstood the previous e-mail then. I thought you wanted to
> keep amjjawad hostname. That said, yes, it's a go go for me :-)
>


No. You still didn't see my point :(

I do want to keep the name of the website as it is: www.amjjawad.net as I
can't changed that, it is a registered domain and it is working :)

I do want to change the whole website. All the current contents will go.
New contents will be there.

Instead of registering new domain, waste our time to pick a name, etc etc
(with ToriOS, we had wasted 3 days to pick a name for the project) - which
I explained earlier - we could use the current domain which is: amjjawad.net

Same domain (amjjawad.net) different website and contents.

Hope it is clear now :)


>
> 2014-11-26 12:45 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Gustavo Silva <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>
>> Hello Gustavo,
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Nice to meet you and see a couple of you guys I already know :-)
>>>
>>
>> Welcome and we are glad to have you here!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Well, here's my 2 cents:
>>> If you wish to take this project forward, everything should be done
>>> properly from the start. I strongly disagree and don't advise anyone to
>>> start one business that requires a huge load of trust - such as business
>>> consultancy - and then change things all the sudden. If it is possible,
>>> let's do it right from the start. Name issues may not be important. In the
>>> end we can get a new name. It's unfortunate though, since Kibo was a good
>>> name - You would have the same pronunciation wherever you are. But I am
>>> sure we can come up with something else.
>>>
>>> I believe these projects should have dedicated things to itself. If you
>>> wish to take Kibo (or whatever it is going to be called in the future)
>>> forward, then having its own website and communication channels is key.
>>> Here's my personal opinion, though controversial - Most of Linux/Ubuntu
>>> projects fail since everybody take their webpage format and schematics,
>>> making it all look the same. Outsiders that don't know what is all this get
>>> confused and scared since it doesn't inspire that much trust (here's the
>>> controversial thought).
>>>
>>> If all of you agree to use Ali's website and/or doing what Ali proposed,
>>> I am fine with that. But, once again, I don't agree and I don't find that
>>> good for business.
>>>
>>>
>> I highly appreciate your feedback but allow me to be super extra clear
>> here. I have a feeling that you misunderstood my email or maybe something
>> is missing. Allow me to re-explain in short words:
>>
>> While the current www.amjjawad.net is 100% pure personal website, if we
>> all agree (or majority) to use it for this project (AKA Kibo), it will be
>> 100% different and will NO longer be personal website. It will be changed
>> and all the info that you can see at the moment will go away and new info
>> will be shown.
>>
>> I explained why I suggested that so not going to repeat myself here.
>>
>> www.amjjawad.net will be the host of the project and has all what we
>> need at this stage.
>>
>> http://amjjawad.net/kibo/ << is nothing but temporary page.
>> I put the introduction to Kibo on a Google Drive Document. I decided to
>> put that on my website.
>>
>> If we will go for www.amjjawad.net to host all about Kibo then the whole
>> website will look different :)
>>
>> Are we good to go or still there are some doubts?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>> 2014-11-26 11:33 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please read MY email and NOT only Phill's email?!
>>>>
>>>> +1 and I agree is not enough. We need to move forward. I have been
>>>> jobless for so long and I am not ready to sit and wait :)
>>>> While you might not be affected with the time factor, I do need each
>>>> and every second of time time. I have a lot to do. If each step will take
>>>> ages, I don't think this project nor any other project will be successful.
>>>>
>>>> Time is a very important factor to me. I don't know about you but to
>>>> me, it is very important.
>>>>
>>>> Kindly read my email and get back to me.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to keep everyone in the loop, please read:
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------  Subject: Missed check up  Date: Wed,
>>>>> 26 Nov 2014 03:21:52 +0000  From: Phill Whiteside <[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]>  To: [email protected], Ali Linx
>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm the proud owner of kibo.computer This was bought in all honesty
>>>>> not knowing of your more convoluted name.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Having been on the receiving end of cyber squatters, I'd be happy to
>>>>> hand it over to you at cost price (I think ~ 20USD) and the new team can 
>>>>> go
>>>>> choose a name that does not confuse you with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The team is a bunch of F/OSS people (some quite qualified) who'd
>>>>> like to earn a bit of money on spare time.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It's really odd how these things happen, you offer DB, Ali is
>>>>> aoffereng a more complete service. I've cc'd him. You two should really
>>>>> have a chat.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Phill.
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. We were so excited. We didn't check. You can totally blame me for
>>>>> this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, what are the options we have before we make the official launch
>>>>> of the project?
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Wait until we get a reply from http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/
>>>>>    2. No need to wait and try to come up with another name.
>>>>>    3. Why? we could use www.amjjawad.net - who cares what is the name
>>>>>    of the website that is offering a service? I mean, a client will click 
>>>>> on a
>>>>>    link, find the service, pay, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the project is mine. No, I can't or don't want to be a dictator.
>>>>> There was a valid reason why I asked you all to join because I do believe
>>>>> in the power of WE instead of the weak I that can't do much without WE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I have to share my opinion before anyone else, I'd recommend to go
>>>>> for www.amjjawad.net for now for these main reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Kibo is the name of the project. It does not matter whether its
>>>>>    website hold the same name or different one.
>>>>>    2. http://www.kibocomputers.co.za/ might start a legal battle (or
>>>>>    may not) against us and we can't go that route neither now nor any 
>>>>> other
>>>>>    time. Neither we have money for a legal stuff nor time.
>>>>>    3. www.amjjawad.net is up and running already, we just need to
>>>>>    update the website and convert it from pure personal website to a 
>>>>> website
>>>>>    for Kibo Services and Products (Kibo Project).
>>>>>    4. Kibo now is a baby. Kibo is just a project (business/profit) at
>>>>>    this stage; I call it Phase 1. Once we can move safely to Phase 2, we 
>>>>> can
>>>>>    worry about other stuff like name, etc. IMHO, once we are on Phase 2 
>>>>> where
>>>>>    Kibo will migrate from a project to a company, we might need different
>>>>>    setup anyway. So, why to waste our time and think about names, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what do you think?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu>
>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - 
>> Ubuntu
>> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
> Gustavo
>
>


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