--- In [email protected], Per Gustafson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Magnus Beischer skrev:
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected] 
> > <mailto:kicad-users%40yahoogroups.com>, "per_at_gutec_se" <per@>
wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Pcbnew crashes when I draw on the pcbedges or drawing layer.
This has
> >  > been verified on two separate installations of kicad, on two
separate
> >  > PCs, both running WinXP.
> >  > At the beginning of the project I created a board outline, and then
> >  > begun the layout work. Now I need to refine the edges, but I always
> >  > get a crash when finishing lines on either layer mentioned above.
> >  > Other operations seem to work: routing, module moving etc.
> >  > What post mortem information would be helpful for the developers of
> > kicad?
> >  > I moved from Orcad to kicad and most work is for me more
efficient in
> >  > kicad. Thanks for a good package!
> >  > /Per
> >  >
> > 
> > Per, I looked at your board and I have a couple of questions, not
> > regarding the crash:
> > 1. When making the pcb symbols, how do you draw the boxes around the
> > components? With my settings they turn up in white/gray. The component
> > body shows in purple. I can only manage to draw one type of lines when
> > editing the components, but I want do draw them like you do. One line
> > color for the actual component body, and one line color for the
> > recommended inter component spacing.
> > 2. When making holes in the board that you don't want to be plated,
> > What method do you use to give the board manufacturer a list of the
> > holes that you don't want plated?
> > 
> > Great to see someone doing complex boards in pcbnew !
> > 
> > // Magnus
> > 
> > 
> 
> Sorry for my late reply,
> 
> 1. I do not really understand your question. I only draw the silk lines 
> and place pads. I have not discovered a way to do courtyards,
keep-outs etc.
> 
> 2.  The only way I found is to make the copper pad as large as the hole 
> (if you make it smaller you get an error). This is not very elegant but 
> a common practice in many ecads.
> 
> I hope this is to some help.
> 
> -- 
> Gutec AB
> Per Gustafson

Per, I do think you draw a component body and an outer border! Please
look at the screen dump I uploaded to the files section
(per-symbol.png). Please comment on this!

For the unplated holes, do you have a way to get rid of copper around
the hole when the hole is in a copper filled area? I don't want my
mounting screws to touch the 0 V layer, because that will make a
connection to the shield... (and I don't trust the solder mask...)

Previously we used another pcb tool that handles unplated holes in a
way understandable by every pcb manufacturer I have ever used so far.
It's not complicated at all. I'll make a post about this later on and
see if the developers can find a way to implement this feature. 

// Magnus

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