Hi Chris,

Thanks for your suggestion.   Firstly, I followed your instructions and 
everything worked just fine.   Obviously that made me go back and check 
if it now worked from the web as intended, and it did.   I then tried 
rebooting before running the web version in case running the local copy 
changed anything in memory, and the web version still worked.   I've 
also moved the new Java files out of the Kicad\bin directory and 
emptying the Java cache, all with no anti-joy.

In the time since I last tried to get it to work I've not changed 
anything.   However, I do note that there have been a couple of 
auto-updates to my Comodo firewall.   If it is the firewall then your 
suggestion is potentially a good workaround.   The finger does point in 
its direction, but if it is the firewall you would think that there 
would have been an error message from the JVM (maybe there's a bug in 
the JVM that causes it to crash if network communications don't happen 
has expected).   It's also curious that earlier versions of Freerouter 
worked ok.

Regards,

Robert.

c_harf wrote:
> Have you seen this thread?
> 
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/message/4634
> 
> I managed to get Freeroute to work 'offline' and added my comments
> (see last post). You can download the .jar files directly etc, then
> edit the .jnlp files to point to the local files rather than online.
> 
> Give it a try and see how you go. HTH
> 
> Chris.
> 
> --- In [email protected], Robert <birmingham_spi...@...> wrote:
>> I presume the jar file is the thing that gets downloaded when you first 
>> run freerouter.   In windows at least this disappears into a cache
> which 
>> is not humanly comprehensible.   The Windows control panel Java applet 
>> allows you to edit the cache, so I tried a few tricks to try to get 
>> Explorer to reveal what the jar file was called in the cache, but got 
>> nowhere.
>>
>> However, unless you know better it looks like I'm wasting my time
> trying 
>> to run the jar file directly.   As far as I can tell the output in 
>> Windows goes to a special window called the Java console that you can 
>> turn on in the Java options.   I've done that, and when a Java app
> fires 
>> up you can certainly see things reported in it such as exceptions. 
>  But 
>> with the current version of freerouter a console window is either not 
>> created or it closes before I can see it.   However, using the process 
>> viewer I can see that both javaw.exe and javaws.exe run, albeit briefly.
>>
>> I tried running javaws in verbose mode, but all it revealed is that it 
>> runs javaw.exe with various options.   It does this in a message box 
>> (doh!), so I can't cut and paste the output.
>>
>> The fault symptoms are identical to what happens when you get a stack 
>> overflow in a c++ program as a result of infinite recursion.   Does
> that 
>> give you any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert.
>>
>> Dick H. wrote:
>>> --- In [email protected], Robert <birmingham_spider@> wrote:
>>>> Dick,
>>>>
>>>> The entire text is shown below:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
>>>> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>>>>
>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\robert>cd "\Program Files\kicad\bin"
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files\KiCad\bin>javaws freeroute.jnlp
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files\KiCad\bin>
>>>>
>>>> Not very illuminating, is it :)?
>>>
>>> The javaws.exe is a wrapper process which in turn launches the
>>> java.exe process and it seems to redirecting the java.exe's output to
>>> some place other than the console.  Dig around and/or possibly with
>>> help from Alfons you will learn how to start the _jar_ file from the
>>> command line using java.exe
>>>
>>> something like 
>>>
>>> java -jar <path_to>/freerouter.jar
>>>
>>> (but this is not it exactly)  Once you can see the output from the JVM
>>>  (java.exe) then it will be very clear as to what the problem is. 
>>> There will likely be some exception text on the console screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>
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