but the reality is... software doesn't have to be well written/coded for it to be "sellable". meaning, bisan pa ug pangit pagka himo basta maayo lang pagka market, daug na, kabalo na tingali mo sa example ani... =)
On 10/9/06, hard wyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, there are also a lot of non-formally trained, knowledgeable programmers... And programming by the way doesn't have to be "authoritarian". You dont have to conform to the preset rules just to create an app. There are many ways to skin a cat (or dog). The CIA has somebody who cracked the Al Qaeda code embedded in JPEGs that led to the Sept 11 attack. That guy is Ankit Fadia, then 15 years old when he broke the Al Qaeda code... He's still doing consulting with CIA on security and cyber warfare as we speak... As for certifications being used for sales, marketing, promoting one person's technical prowess, I say these companies must shift focus from looking at the letters after the names, and look more into what is written in the SKILLS section and WORK EXPERIENCE section of the curriculum vitae. I'd hire a 15 year old that can do code efficiently and perfectly than hire a "certified" slacker. On 10/9/06, edgardo bangga < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the reason y gus2 nila certified it bcoz everybody can > claim na programmers sila, even highschool graduate > pwede mka ingn na kbalo sila mag program. > > On hiring programmers, on exam, most companies are > particular on logic formulation, the way he solve the > program. It is not a big deal if you know the pl. the > important is that you understand the pseudocode of the > program. So, present certifications are useless for > future purposes. > > Certifications are just only part of sales. For > bidding purposes and for confidence and trust:D > > > --- hard wyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/9/06, Earl Lapus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > i think ang purpose sa mga companies nga mo hire > > sila ug "certified" > > > IT people kay para > > > "humot" ang ilang baho... =) para man gud na maka > > ingon sila "all our > > > programmers are > > > java certified"... so bagting dayon ang mga > > dalungan sa mga "business" > > > people... murag. it's a way to market the > > company... murag lang. =) > > > > > > > :) as what the article has mentioned, certifications > > are irrelevant :). And > > re-quoting the article, according to the survey: > > > > Vendors offer such an enormous range of > > certifications, > > > many of them easy to achieve, that the value of > > the certification process > > > has been watered down. Likewise, certifications do > > not prove real-world > > > skill. > > > > > > > Sadly, specially in the Philippines, it's always > > about what "paper" you are > > holding... and not what you know of the job in > > question. Added to that also > > is from what school you came from. Although we have > > to admit, a lot of > > expensive, ivy-leaguish schools do produce fitting > > candidates, but > > oftentimes, those from lesser-known institutions > > produce qualified > > candidates too. But a lot of companies rarely see > > that fact. They start with > > "Where did you graduate?". Then when the candidate > > did not come from their > > preferred academe, they shrug the applicant off > > :)... i should know.. I'm a > > victim of this discrimination too :)). > > > > -- > > "A dog that has no bite, barks loudest." > > 0x68 0x61 0x72 0x64 0x77 0x79 0x72 0x64 > > 68 74 74 70 3A 2F 2F 62 61 75 64 69 7A 6D 2E 62 6C > > 6F 67 73 6F 6D 65 2E 63 > > 6F 6D > > 68 74 74 70 3a 2f 2f 77 77 77 2e 68 61 72 64 77 79 > > 72 64 2e 6e 65 74 2e 74 > > 63 > > Registered Linux User #400165 > > 'nuff said... > > > _________________________________________________ > > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > > [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] ( http://cdo.linux.org.ph) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- "A dog that has no bite, barks loudest." 0x68 0x61 0x72 0x64 0x77 0x79 0x72 0x64 68 74 74 70 3A 2F 2F 62 61 75 64 69 7A 6D 2E 62 6C 6F 67 73 6F 6D 65 2E 63 6F 6D 68 74 74 70 3a 2f 2f 77 77 77 2e 68 61 72 64 77 79 72 64 2e 6e 65 74 2e 74 63 Registered Linux User #400165 'nuff said... _________________________________________________ Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
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