begin  quoting gossamer axe as of Fri, May 20, 2005 at 02:11:57PM -0700:
> > I was a passenger in a car when the distributor ate itself at 70 mph.
> 
> Must've been one toothy distributor

:)

Well, there's a stack of plates and springs and things to handle
the timing advance, all with a pretty tight clearance.  We guess
that a screw "fell out" in there somewhere, and the timing advance
mechanism turned itself into a metallic gravel.  The distributor
sounded like a rainstick when it got pulled out.

> > We were able to steer the car to the side of the road and stop. A
> > bit worrying, but it wasn't a problem.
> 
> I used to have a 1973 Plymouth Fury III (or 2), when the engine died
> the steering locked up (ugh),

Yikes!  Why?  Totally hydraulic steering? 

>                               it had a bad stalling problem, used to
> freak me out when I drove down the freeway and thought about it.  what
> happens if I'm going (at that time) 55 and the engine quits and the
> steering locks up? Luckily my Mustang will coast, no steering lockup
> but the power steering goes away and it's difficult to steer but
> managable, and more pushable than the Plymouth boat I had.

Heh.

I really do think it's a good idea to go somewhere flat without
any obstacles, and to test how a car drives in various situations.
Turn off the engine and try to steer. Same again but brake...

> You were very lucky, your guardian angel was watching out for you (or
> someone).
 
Yup.

The "drunkard's walk" of the (then-uncontrolled) wheel kept us on
the road, just barely.  If it hadn't flip-flopped back and forth,
we'd've either ended up in the stand of (largish) trees, or the
school playground.

> > Losing power can be dangerous (if this had happened as we were
> > crossing some railroad tracks, say...), but not nearly as dangerous
> > as losing steering (or braking).
> 
> Very, but computer based cars or 100% mechanical cars it does happen.  

Yup. But computer-controlled systems *still* end up delegating to
mechanical systems, so it's an extra failure mode that doesn't 
appear to eliminate any other failure modes. :)

> > -Stewart "I write software. Therefore, I don't trust it." Stremler
> 
> do you not trust the software you write?

Not if I don't have to, and I trust others less.  Especially when
software is being used for convenince or cost-reduction instead of
where its weaknesses are more than counterbalanced by its utility.

If I were to write the software to control steering of a car, I'd
also really want a mechanical fallback system.  To the point where
if I could get away with it, I'd refuse to write the software w/o
such a fallback system in place.

-Stewart "Not all errors are avoidable. So avoid the ones you can." Stremler

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