Sort of. They until quite recently have been very slow so they
would quickly fall out of the range I am talking about, i.e. a few
seconds btween editing and seeing results.

Also increasingly as Andrew points out all most people do
with code is glue APIs together and use huge libraries. Honestly
I don't find that to be much fun, which for me was always the
main reason to program. Yes, I am not very "professional."

I am using Python for a very small fun project now involving
boat design. I generate a hull form then view it in a 3D display
program. The Python is fast enough on modern PCs to get me
the interaction I want but I could have done the same thing in
Forth twenty years ago.

I gotta say I do like Python though and there are tons of libraries.
My demands are not as stringent as those of Andrew or people
who have to deliver and maintain a lot of code professionally.
Mostly I write stuff for prototypes and exploration and have no
qualms about throwing 95% of it away.

BobLQ

On 1/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:55:40AM -0800, Bob La Quey wrote:
> My main point is that most programmers have never really worked
> in such an interactive environment and don't even know what I am
> talking about. Too bad. It is damn good fun, which was one of the
> main attributes of Forth programming.

Perl, Python and Ruby have interactive environments where you can type
code in and see it evaluated on the fly.  Is that what you mean?

chris


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