I recall a that made a comment that a lot of people on another list were asking questions that they should already know. I also get the impression that many KPLUG members assume that everyone should be on the same technical level. I think some people are put off by this.
----- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Lentvorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Main Discussion List for KPLUG <kplug-list@kernel-panic.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:39:39 PM Subject: Re: SDCS project suggestion Rick Carlson wrote: > Tracy R Reed wrote: >> gossamer axe wrote: >>> If you want to get new users to Linux, more of the meetings need to >>> be more newbie oriented. > >> What will the experienced guys (most of kplug these days) do during >> the meetings? > > Gee... Meetings oriented towards newbies with a bunch of seasoned > experienced KPLUG guys standing around with nothing to do? > > I wonder how they got to be seasoned and experienced? > > I am sure no one helped explain things to them when they were starting > out. Their experience and knowledge probably popped fully formed into > their heads one day while they were busy standing around making fun of > people who were not as smart as they were. I don't know what you are referring to, but I have *never* seen anyone make fun of anyone at KPLUG. People go way above and beyond the call of duty to help people out irrespective of experience level. > Or, just a thought here, maybe you would get more people interested in > attending if they actually felt welcome? You know, radical things like > actually listening to what they say instead of dismissing out of hand > what they try to contribute. It is great to be in an exclusive club but > when you make it difficult to join the club then your membership > dwindles and pretty soon all you are doing is stroking each others egos > and wondering why people don't think as highly of you as you think of > yourselves. What am I missing here? We're talking about clubs that would hand over an *officer* position if someone would actually, you know, ask to be one. That's hardly the model of an unresponsive club. > Maybe you need to turn your perspective around. There are people who are > teaching computers and Linux in schools and non-traditional venues. > These are sources of people who have shown an above average interest in > Linux. How many of those Instructors are telling their students about > KPLUG and encouraging them to get involved? How many KPLUG members are > doing that instructing? Why aren't those students beating down the doors > to join KPLUG? You're not listening. People aren't beating down the doors to join *anything* anymore. KPLUG isn't unique in this. -a -- KPLUG-List@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list -- KPLUG-List@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list