Rick Carlson wrote:
> Tracy R Reed wrote:
>> gossamer axe wrote:
>>> If you want to get new users to Linux, more of the meetings need to be
>>> more newbie oriented.
>
>> What will the experienced guys (most of kplug these days) do during the
>> meetings?
>
> Gee... Meetings oriented towards newbies with a bunch of seasoned
> experienced KPLUG guys standing around with nothing to do?
>
> I wonder how they got to be seasoned and experienced?
>
> I am sure no one helped explain things to them when they were starting
> out. Their experience and knowledge probably popped fully formed into
> their heads one day while they were busy standing around making fun of
> people who were not as smart as they were.
Nice snub. Tracy is one of our most prolific presenters. Your criticism is
misplaced.
>>> Advertising is another thing, someone mentioned lower attendance at the
>>> meetings. There has to be a way to get more advertising out there for
>>> the meetings. San Diego based web sites, free add in maybe the Reader and
>>> other similar publications? I'm not sure where the group advertises
>>> outside of
>>> Computer Edge.
>
>> This is the most important, IMHO. We used to get lots of people from
>> Computer Edge. This is how I found KPLUG too, many years ago. But
>> everyone has gone online now. Computer Edge is but a thin ghost of its
>> former self. I never read it anymore. I go online. As does just about
>> anyone else into Linux. Maybe Google Adwords to draw people to the KPLUG
>> website?
>
> Or, just a thought here, maybe you would get more people interested in
> attending if they actually felt welcome? You know, radical things like
> actually listening to what they say instead of dismissing out of hand
> what they try to contribute. It is great to be in an exclusive club but
> when you make it difficult to join the club then your membership
> dwindles and pretty soon all you are doing is stroking each others egos
> and wondering why people don't think as highly of you as you think of
> yourselves.
Have you attended our meetings? Do you find us elitist, or is that just your
assumption from following this thread?
>>> I also believe that advertising the meetings in non-computer
>>> publications might help attendance.
>
>> Are you aware of any appropriate non-computer publications? Can you get
>> us into them? That would be great!
>
> Maybe you need to turn your perspective around. There are people who are
> teaching computers and Linux in schools and non-traditional venues.
> These are sources of people who have shown an above average interest in
> Linux. How many of those Instructors are telling their students about
> KPLUG and encouraging them to get involved? How many KPLUG members are
> doing that instructing? Why aren't those students beating down the doors
> to join KPLUG?
Why are many of the regulars on this list seldom in attendance at our
meetings? There always seem to be a lively discussion here. I know we have
list members from all over the world. Not everyone can attend. But I miss
seeing many of the posters on this list at our once monthly meetings. If the
people who use Linux daily, talk about it often and are keenly interested in
the topic don't show up for meetings, what makes you think someone only mildly
interested with no experience is more likely to be attracted?
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