begin  quoting Bob La Quey as of Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:44:52PM -0800:
> While I too like working with "good" people and am
> sympathetic to what you and Gregory are saying there
> is still a voice inside that says, "Anbody can get the
> job done with 'good' peiople. No challenge there. The
> whol eproblem is how to get the job done with people
> who are 'not so good' ." 

How not-so-good are we talking?

You identify their abilities and give 'em tasks commesurate
with their skill.  Unfortunately, there's not a lot of low-skill
jobs in programming that can't be taken over by the computer.

Not-so-good people are taken out of critical paths, or if they
are in a critical path, it's far enough out so that if they aren't
doing an adequate job, someone skilled can come by and fix up or
redo their work before it becomes a real issue.

IIRC, you worked in construction in your youth. I'm sure there
are all sorts of analogies there.

>                          (how the hell do you punctuate that?)

You did pretty good with the punctuation, so far as I'm concerned.

:)

> If all of our processes and theories are unable to help us
> do better with less then what good are they? Have we
> actually learned nothing?

I think we have learned less than the people selling us those
books propounding theories and processes say we've learned.

I've been told that the most important skill a technical manager
can have is the ability to fire people who are causing discontent
among the rest of the team.

I'm not sure this is a skill you can get from a book.

-- 
And I think you can learn a lot from a book, if it's the right book.
Stewart Stremler

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