I wouldn't count on it being approved for use in the US in it's current implementation. It is designed for Europe. As best I understand the European implementation of ADS-B, there is no 978 MHZ UAT. So that unit likely doesn't have a UAT receiver, so in the US would be missing half of the GA traffic and all of the weather data, since that is also broadcast via UAT from ground stations.
When you talk about the other countries use of satellites for ADS-B, they are using Satellites to Receive ADS-B data from 1090-ES aircraft, but don't supply any ADS-B data to aircraft from the satellite coverage. The US is also doing the same. But in the US, the FAA has installed a network of ground stations to act as traffic repeaters as well as broadcasting weather and other flight data on 978 MHZ (UAT). That's why outside of the US, you will be required to have 1090-ES for ADS-B out, and don't count an getting any weather or airport conditions from ADS-B. My information is a couple of years old, so if things have changed in Europe or other places around the world, I would welcome an update. -Jeff Scott Cherokee Village, AR > Cc: laser...@juno.com > Subject: KR> ADS-B > > I found my solution. It's not on the market in the U.S. yet - rumor has > it the FAA will have approved it by Sun & Fun . . . but surely by the end > of this year?. The FAA is going to look pretty stupid if they don't. > It's already approved by the CAA in the UK and EASA will soon follow and > those agencies are known to be a lot tougher than the FAA. > > This is better than the EchoUAT that I mentioned in an earlier post. > This model has the approved WAAS GPS incorporated in the unit. It is a > transciever, thus it receives the UAT and ES info while transmitting UAT > Out (at least in the U.S.). The model shown at the link below transmits > only ES Out since 1090 is what the UK and the rest of the world outside > of the U.S., uses. > > It sniffs the existing transponder code and transmits it along with baro > info from either an existing encoder or from the barometric sensor inside > the unit itself. It will need to be programmed via wi-fi. It transmits > traffic and weather to any number of iOS and Android EFB's & EFIS > displays - Dynon, GRT, and Mark's favorite company MGL. This interface > is called a GDL-90 standard as I understand things so if the EFIS or EFB > conforms to that standard, this Echo thing will connect with them via > wi-fi, bluetooth, or hardwire. I can easily imagine uAvionix producing > these models to order based upon already existing equipment in the > aircraft, and the desires of the customer. Cost, including the internal > WAAS GPS, is predicted to be $1300 to $1500. Since aircraft all around > the planet will eventually be using these things working off of Iridium > satellites, cost is bound to come down quickly. > > And besides . . . it's so small. How can they charge a bunch of money > for something so tiny? > > So . . . this is the best thing I've come across so far. It's not on the > market yet but uAvionix seems to be a very aggressive and competent > company and will hopefully be able to deal with the FAA bureaucrats and > get this thing approved for Experimentals and Light Sport. TSO'd models > will follow. > > I wouldn't be surprised if another option on this unit will be > "diversity", which means mounting an antenna on top of the fuselage so we > can use satellites like the rest of the world will be doing. The U.S. is > the only country using ground stations for ADS-B at this point. Canada > will be using satellites, also the UK and Europe. Mexico? If I know > Mexico at all, they won't give a crap about any of this except for > perhaps airline use or those flying above 18K. > > This one is for sale on Amazon in the UK for $800 (currently is > back-ordered). Whatever they come up with for our market will obviously > have a different model number, but this is what it will look like I > think. > > https://uavionix.com/products/echo-att-20b/ > > This same company had a ADS-B IN USB-powered dongle for the iFly models > called a "Ping Buddy". Reading the iFly forums, apparently the device > works flawlessly . . . but uAvionix stopped making them for iFly for some > reason. They show up on eBay. > > That's all I "know" for now, > > Mike > KSEE > _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
