On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Scarlett Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:21:41 AM Ralph Janke wrote: >> On 2014-11-20 09:34, Harald Sitter wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> >> > >> > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:17:33 PM Harald Sitter wrote: >> >>> fwiw if only we had a policy to deal with dead upstreams.... >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Kitterman >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> > Ktorrent is the current default torrent client that we provide in >> >>> > Kubuntu. >> >>> > Now that we've transitioned to Plasma 5, it's no longer >> >>> > buildable/installable in "Vivid". >> >>> > >> >>> > The upstream web site is down: http://ktorrent.org/ >> >>> >> >>> ^ that wouldn't be the qualifier on whether it suffers from dead >> >>> upstream >> >>> >> >>> > I looked in KDE git and there's no sign of a KF5/Plasma 5 port: >> >>> > https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/repositor >> >>> > y >> >>> >> >>> ^ that wouldn't either >> >>> >> >>> > My conclusion is that ktorrent isn't an option for Vivid, so we either >> >>> > need to stop shipping a torrent client or pick a different one. >> >>> >> >>> ^ those wouldn't be the primary options >> >>> >> >>> food for thought >> >> >> >> JR fixed it, so it's not an immediate issue. >> >> >> >> IMO it wasn't so much a dead upstream issue as a no longer works with >> >> Plasma 5 >> >> issue. The dead upstream just made that less likely to get better on >> >> its own. >> > >> > my point is that there is no dead upstream, as no one tried to talk to >> > upstream (nor brought it to the attention of the large kde developer >> > community). > >> >> The question is IMHO if you could ever consider an upstream dead. By >> definition >> this would mean that it would never become alive again. However, in Open >> Source, >> anybody can pick up the source and so a new group of people can take >> over the >> maintenance without anybody else being able to prevent it. >> >> So I would rephrase this question. How would you consider that a source >> is >> obsolete in the sense that there is a better one the replaces the first >> one >> and it does not make sense to put any kind of work in it anymore. Or, if >> it >> is still a valid choice, how to create the helpful flow of information >> that >> allows people to step forward to keep it maintained. > > Just an FYI Ktorrent is next on the Gardening team to do. We were able to get > a new release with k3b and sparked new life into it. Please don't deem > Ktorrent dead just yet. > Scarlett
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